PIPPIN. It's a musical with a lot to discuss which is probably why so many of you have requested it! This week, we welcome two wonderful guests with "magic to do" that will help make it happen. Podcaster and author Chris Adams (Out for Blood) joins us from the UK to talk about the hills & valleys and eagles & rivers that went into making a musical as fascinating as it is entertaining. Then, Tony-winner John Rubinstein (Children of a Lesser God, Ragtime, and the original "Pippin" himself) brings context (and first hand accounts) to the original production, including what it was like to be in a rehearsal room with Bob Fosse. Spoiler alert: he never yelled.

Order Chris' new book Out for Blood: A Cultural History of Carrie the Musical. Follow the podcast on Instagram at @outforbloodpodcast or listen to it from the beginning on Broadway Podcast Network.

See John in his latest play Eisenhower: This Piece of Ground, playing Off-Broadway in New York during the month of October. Visit eisenhowertheplay.com for more information.

Be sure to follow us on Instagram, TikTok, and X for more great content. If you'd like to support the show, the best way to do so is by giving us a nice rating and review wherever you listen! You can also subscribe to PATREON! where for only $1 a month you'll receive bonus episodes made exclusively for you. Don't forget about our TeePublic Store where profits we receive will be donated to Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS.

More than anything, know how grateful we are you're part of this podcasting community and remember you can "pull a Catherine" whenever you like!