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[0:00] Jesse McAnally: Hello, I'm Jesse McAnally.

[0:01] Alan Seales: I'm Alan Seales.

[0:02] Liz Esten: And I'm Liz Esten. And welcome to Carrey'd Away, a podcast where we explore the films and television shows starring the one and only James Eugene Carrey.

[0:25] Jesse McAnally: In case you haven't noticed, this is my nice guy version.

[0:25] Alan Seales: Oh no, this is my bad guy version. I talk slightly different and in a lower cadence. I'm going to say some things that are just misogynistic towards women and borderline just kind of rape.

[0:37] Jesse McAnally: I'm the nice guy again.

[0:45] Alan Seales: Wait, don't forget the obvious racism that is still socially acceptable in 2000.

[0:52] Liz Esten: Which one?

[0:52] Jesse McAnally: The whole movie?

[0:55] Alan Seales: The Three Sons? Okay, the Three Sons are pretty great, though.

[1:00] Liz Esten: They are really, really good. I agree. They are great. However, the way they are scripted is so obviously like, we're trying to do this and make a joke out of it, and it's racist.

[1:13] Jesse McAnally: Yes, but also the actors are charismatic enough where I feel like the joke kind of slingshots around. You know, it kind of hits around the sun where it kind of becomes a different joke.

[1:26] Alan Seales: Yes. Well, what are we talking about, Jesse?

[1:28] Jesse McAnally: This week, we are talking... I don't like that. Don't call me that one. We are talking about Jim Carrey's and the Fairly Brothers follow up to Dumb and Dumber, Me, Myself, and Irene.

[1:41] Alan Seales: This summer, Jim Carrey is good cop. Boy, you can't beat the open road.

[1:49] Jesse McAnally: Bad cop. What are you staring at?

[1:53] Alan Seales: What is your problem? It's between me and the kid.

[1:56] Jesse McAnally: Insane cop. I stay out of his business, he stays out of mine. I see total union and anonymity.

[2:03] Alan Seales: Me, Myself, and Irene. Sound good, candy pants.

[2:07] Jesse McAnally: Rated R. June 23rd, only in theaters. Me, Myself, and Irene is a film...

[2:13] Alan Seales: This trailer is very wacky.

[2:13] Jesse McAnally: It is very wacky. They mismarketed this film because this film is not particularly wacky.

[2:20] Alan Seales: Me, Myself, and Irene is a film released June 23rd, 2000, written by Mike Cerrone, Peter Farrelly, and Bobby Farrelly. Oscar-winning writer, directors, and producers of Green Book.

[2:33] Jesse McAnally: Starring Jim Carrey, Renee Zellweger, Chris Cooper, Robert Forster, and Richard Jenkins.

[2:39] Alan Seales: What an interesting cast. Directed by the Farrelly Brothers, the plot of which is Rhode Island State Trooper Charlie Bailey Gates has multiple personality disorder.

[2:48] Jesse McAnally: One personality is crazy and aggressive, while the other is more friendly and laid-back.

[2:53] Alan Seales: Both of these personalities fall in love with the same woman, named Irene, after Charlie loses his medication.

[3:01] Jesse McAnally: What a folksy, little, horrendous R-rated comedy.

[3:06] Alan Seales: It was good.

[3:08] Jesse McAnally: Is it?

[3:09] Alan Seales: No.

[3:10] Jesse McAnally: Is it?

[3:10] Alan Seales: No.

[3:12] Jesse McAnally: I enjoyed it.

[3:13] Alan Seales: You're wrong.

[3:15] Jesse McAnally: I enjoyed it. I liked it. Anyway.

[3:17] Alan Seales: Was it the scene where Irene gets date-raped by one of Jim Carrey's personalities, or the giant dildo that gets shoved up his butt?

[3:26] Jesse McAnally: As she pointed out, he shoved it up his own butt.

[3:29] Alan Seales: I never said... I mean, it's certainly a thing that happens in this movie.

[3:36] Jesse McAnally: Lots of dildo jokes.

[3:38] Alan Seales: Lots of dildo jokes. Lots of poop jokes. Lots of lactation jokes.

[3:43] Jesse McAnally: It's just the one lactation joke, and then there's no more.

[3:46] Alan Seales: One and a half. I'd say that the setup is a joke, and then the payoff is disgusting.

[3:51] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, it's gross. It's disgusting.

[3:53] Alan Seales: Can you imagine being the actress who had to do that?

[3:56] Jesse McAnally: She got paid.

[3:57] Alan Seales: Do we know who that is?

[3:59] Jesse McAnally: She got paid.

[4:01] Alan Seales: Yes, but that's just weird.

[4:03] Jesse McAnally: I know. I couldn't find who she is, but I could look.

[4:05] Alan Seales: Um, I'm just going to type me, myself, and Irene, boob lady.

[4:08] Jesse McAnally: Oh, God. I'll let you Google that. I Google enough weird shit.

[4:11] Alan Seales: Oh, I found it. It did. It did find it. I'm guessing she's an adult actress, based on the website that I found it on.

[4:20] Jesse McAnally: Shannon Worry?

[4:22] Alan Seales: Yes.

[4:23] Jesse McAnally: Ah, it makes sense.

[4:25] Alan Seales: I uploaded it in... I looked at it in Incognito.

[4:28] Jesse McAnally: Okay, yeah. Good for her.

[4:30] Alan Seales: Oh, it's on Wikipedia. What am I saying? It's on Wikipedia.

[4:33] Jesse McAnally: Breastfeeding mom.

[4:35] Alan Seales: Breastfeeding mom is my drag name.

[4:39] Jesse McAnally: This film is, you know, good effort.

[4:43] Alan Seales: It is kind of Jim Carrey trying to return to form after, you know, a rough couple goes at it.

[4:48] Jesse McAnally: You know what I mean?

[4:51] Alan Seales: Dumb and Dumber wasn't bad.

[4:52] Jesse McAnally: It wasn't bad.

[4:53] Alan Seales: I'm saying that this is in a really precarious period in his career.

[4:57] Jesse McAnally: So in case you haven't picked up on this, we're recording these wildly out of order, so we don't even have a concept of what we're talking about right now.

[5:05] Alan Seales: So this is following up Man on the Moon, which was supposed to be really his home run, kind of let me get that Oscar, and he didn't even get nominated for an Oscar.

[5:16] Jesse McAnally: Simon Birch and the Truman Show.

[5:18] Alan Seales: This is his return to form to these kind of films since Liar Liar, about three years beforehand.

[5:24] Jesse McAnally: So he had been taking a real break from the traditional raunchy comedy.

[5:29] Alan Seales: And this is like, all right, let's go back.

[5:32] Jesse McAnally: And I think he trips on a rake and immediately shits himself as far as this performance goes.

[5:39] Alan Seales: No, very nice way of putting it.

[5:42] Jesse McAnally: No, the nice guy.

[5:43] Alan Seales: I politely disagree.

[5:45] Jesse McAnally: I think the nice guy version of I think the Charlie, not the Hank.

[5:51] Alan Seales: I did not. I found Hank obnoxious and full of everything else that he does in every other movie that makes him rubber face.

[5:57] Jesse McAnally: But the Hank of it all, I mean, the Charlie of it all, I really liked. I thought, like, I like sincere Jim Carrey.

[6:02] Alan Seales: I think I'm learning that about myself.

[6:04] Jesse McAnally: And I sort of hate myself for it, but I like it.

[6:08] Alan Seales: I don't hate the Charlie part, but when it's the Charlie part, it's just a mediocre rom-com with a woman with no characteristics.

[6:14] Jesse McAnally: And then when Hank comes in, it's a bad comedy with a lot of punching.

[6:17] Alan Seales: So like, either way, it's not good.

[6:20] Jesse McAnally: It's either mediocre or bad.

[6:22] Alan Seales: No, well, okay.

[6:23] Jesse McAnally: So mediocre, considering, as Jesse said, we're recording out of order.

[6:28] Alan Seales: So like, in my mind, we still just recorded the first three, which maybe it's, you know, the memory function of the first things you experience or what you hold everything else against in life.

[6:41] Jesse McAnally: But everything else, I always compare to those first three, which were terrible.

[6:46] Alan Seales: So it's always like, is it better than those?

[6:48] Jesse McAnally: Sure.

[6:49] Alan Seales: All right.

[6:49] Jesse McAnally: It's good.

[6:49] Alan Seales: Yeah, it's pretty much relive one of the first three in editing.

[6:52] Jesse McAnally: I totally get it.

[6:53] Alan Seales: Reliving that caused me maybe nearly get a therapist.

[6:56] Jesse McAnally: So, you know, it was rough, but...

[6:59] Alan Seales: A second therapist.

[7:00] Jesse McAnally: A third therapist, let's be honest with ourselves.

[7:04] Alan Seales: They gave you the personality disorder where there's the podcast you and the real you?

[7:11] Jesse McAnally: No, podcast me is just the person that talks more.

[7:14] Alan Seales: And the real me is just the person that doesn't talk a lot.

[7:16] Jesse McAnally: Wait, I only know podcast you.

[7:18] Alan Seales: There's another version that doesn't talk as much?

[7:20] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, there's a person that has legs.

[7:21] Alan Seales: What?

[7:22] Jesse McAnally: There's a version of me that has legs and can walk.

[7:24] Alan Seales: Jess has seen this version of me in New York at BroadwayCon a couple years back.

[7:28] Alan Seales: So did I, yeah.

[7:28] Jesse McAnally: But you've seen that version of her.

[7:30] Alan Seales: And so did Helen.

[7:31] Jesse McAnally: I forgot.

[7:31] Alan Seales: I met Helen for five seconds.

[7:34] Jesse McAnally: Right.

[7:34] Alan Seales: Yeah, we saw each other for like three and a half seconds.

[7:36] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[7:37] Alan Seales: And you still seem like podcast Liz to me.

[7:40] Jesse McAnally: Well, because I was at a convention, a podcaster.

[7:42] Alan Seales: So I was trying to be podcast me in real life.

[7:44] Jesse McAnally: So...

[7:45] Alan Seales: Well, you were podcast-tastic, so...

[7:46] Jesse McAnally: Yeah.

[7:47] Alan Seales: Thank you.

[7:48] Jesse McAnally: Thank you.

[7:50] Alan Seales: So back to me, myself, and Irene.

[7:52] Jesse McAnally: This film has, I'd say, a loose sense of what mental illness is.

[8:01] Alan Seales: They think it's like a magic trick that can kind of go in and out.

[8:05] Jesse McAnally: They think it's like the Hulk.

[8:06] Alan Seales: They think mental illness is basically like the Hulk.

[8:09] Jesse McAnally: What's your secret?

[8:11] Alan Seales: I'm always schizophrenic.

[8:13] Jesse McAnally: I mean, it's anytime Hank or Charlie gets angry, Hank comes out and then he does the worst thing like drown a child and sexually assault a woman or take a shit in someone's driveway.

[8:25] Alan Seales: But I mean, that kid is never going to do skip, jumping rope in the middle of the street again.

[8:30] Jesse McAnally: So, you know, pick your part.

[8:31] Alan Seales: Yeah, but he still assaulted a child on camera.

[8:36] Jesse McAnally: I will say it is kind of funny to watch Jim Carrey drown a child in a fountain.

[8:42] Alan Seales: That is the one shot that got me chuckling.

[8:45] Jesse McAnally: Um, this is OK.

[8:47] Alan Seales: OK, you guys are chuckling.

[8:48] Jesse McAnally: And I was just thinking what I was thinking.

[8:51] Alan Seales: I'm like, no, no, no.

[8:52] Jesse McAnally: How is she still here?

[8:53] Alan Seales: I was still here.

[8:55] Jesse McAnally: I never LOL.

[8:56] Alan Seales: I never actually laughed out loud.

[9:00] Jesse McAnally: That's the review you want for a comedy.

[9:00] Alan Seales: I never actually laughed.

[9:05] Jesse McAnally: But I enjoyed it from beginning to end and watched it at one X.

[9:08] Alan Seales: But it's a comedy, though.

[9:10] Jesse McAnally: I watched it at one and a quarter and it still wasn't funny.

[9:12] Alan Seales: Listen, there are some movies that are from the 90s and early 2000s that at the time were the shit.

[9:19] Jesse McAnally: And then now, because we're just used to a different standard of CG and budget, some of this stuff gets passed over.

[9:25] Alan Seales: So I'm always trying to a look at it through that lens and be I subconsciously compare it to the first three movies of Jim Carrey that we watched.

[9:33] Jesse McAnally: So it's immediately a better.

[9:35] Alan Seales: I mean, I know I shit on you for, like, you know, putting things on the all righty then when we're comparing to porn.

[9:41] Jesse McAnally: I think we've crossed that line.

[9:45] Alan Seales: And now I can compare this to the other Fairly Brothers road trip movie starring Jim Carrey, Dumb and Dumber.

[9:50] Jesse McAnally: And, you know, that had some charm and a few cute ideas.

[9:55] Alan Seales: And they kind of don't ask you to really like our main characters.

[9:59] Jesse McAnally: And this really wants you to find Irene and Charlie slash Hank in a compelling romantic thing.

[10:06] Alan Seales: And that is the crux of the story.

[10:08] Jesse McAnally: And it just doesn't work.

[10:11] Alan Seales: The romance between Harry and Lloyd with all that film's problem does work.

[10:17] Jesse McAnally: So Jerry Maguire was 1996.

[10:20] Alan Seales: This was 2000.

[10:21] Jesse McAnally: Yes.

[10:22] Alan Seales: So this is coming like Renee Zellweger still like she's hot stuff right now, bro.

[10:28] Jesse McAnally: She just did Chicago and two years later after this, like this is like her kind of going back up there.

[10:33] Alan Seales: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[10:34] Jesse McAnally: I don't think this helped, though, to Liz's point.

[10:37] Alan Seales: This was not a strong script for Renee's character for Irene.

[10:41] Jesse McAnally: For me and myself, it gave you something to play with.

[10:43] Alan Seales: I just I OK, let me let me say my weird opinion.

[10:48] Jesse McAnally: I think Renee Zellweger's performance in this is better than this script deserves.

[10:53] Alan Seales: I actually think she's really, really good at this.

[10:56] Jesse McAnally: And she's playing a really on point comedic performance and being the straight man.

[11:02] Alan Seales: And most of the jokes I laugh at being her is really impressive.

[11:06] Jesse McAnally: And there's a reason why I think her she should kind of be the main character of this movie.

[11:12] Alan Seales: Like if she's the main character, she comes across this force of nature kind of thing.

[11:16] Jesse McAnally: This is a different movie.

[11:17] Alan Seales: And I kind of prefer to watch that one.

[11:20] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, I mean, I kind of agree with Jess.

[11:22] Alan Seales: Renee Zellweger is really good in this, despite being given scraps.

[11:25] Jesse McAnally: Right.

[11:26] Alan Seales: She's given nothing.

[11:27] Jesse McAnally: And she's acting like this is like her comedy, her movie.

[11:30] Alan Seales: And it's like, OK, you compel me, Renee Zellweger.

[11:33] Jesse McAnally: But when she has to talk to Hank, then she's immediately like, what the fuck am I doing?

[11:40] Alan Seales: And then that's when my brain goes, why are you still here?

[11:43] Jesse McAnally: Run away.

[11:44] Alan Seales: I feel like during this period in her career, she's getting shit on so hard, like because she's doing the Bridget Jones diary.

[11:51] Jesse McAnally: She's doing all this stuff.

[11:56] Alan Seales: And the fact is, her face alone sells a joke.

[11:59] Jesse McAnally: Like when we cut from like, my dad couldn't hurt a fly to Hank acting wild and her holding a dart.

[12:05] Alan Seales: It's her.

[12:06] Jesse McAnally: That's the funny part.

[12:07] Alan Seales: It's her reacting to this, not Jim Carrey being wild.

[12:10] Jesse McAnally: Like so many scenes just end on her reacting to what just happened.

[12:15] Alan Seales: And it works because of that and nothing else.

[12:18] Jesse McAnally: I agree.

[12:19] Alan Seales: I agree.

[12:20] Jesse McAnally: Yeah, totally.

[12:21] Alan Seales: I do.

[12:21] Jesse McAnally: That's what I was saying.

[12:21] Alan Seales: I think that she gave a good performance in this, despite the fact that it was not there was not much substance in the script.

[12:29] Jesse McAnally: And so, like you said, facial expressions.

[12:31] Alan Seales: Yeah, that's all she had at that point.

[12:34] Jesse McAnally: She didn't have jokes.

[12:35] Alan Seales: She was just like, all right, I guess I'm gonna go with this.

[12:38] Alan Seales: And on this set comes the relationship between Jim Carrey and Renee Zellweger, which is a pretty big part.

[12:44] Alan Seales: Of Jim Carrey's history, and we'll come back to that in *Eternal Sunshine* because that director played some mental tricks on Jim Carrey to emotionally torture him about this relationship, which is, you know, healthy. French people are French people. They'll do that.

[13:01] Jess McAnally: Oh, the French.

[13:02] Alan Seales: Oh, the French.

[13:04] Jess McAnally: Oh, the French.

[13:05] Alan Seales: But I can tell where the passion for this film is. Like, the writer...

[13:10] Jess McAnally: The narrator.

[13:11] Alan Seales: The narrator, the directors, they have a deep love for Rhode Island, and this does feel like a proper love letter to Rhode Island in a weird roundabout kind of way.

[13:20] Jess McAnally: Are those what Rhode Island state troopers really look like?

[13:23] Alan Seales: Yeah, they're probably less attractive.

[13:26] Jess McAnally: Than Jim Carrey?

[13:27] Alan Seales: They're probably just normal ass people. I don't think Jim Carrey's attracting this, just to be clear. I never think Jim Carrey's attractive, like, end of sentence.

[13:35] Jess McAnally: Even with the ash?

[13:37] Alan Seales: I hate just mustaches, so I hated it. Like, no.

[13:41] Jess McAnally: Not even the butt chin at the end? That didn't do it?

[13:43] Alan Seales: Oh, that gave me a jump scare, and I never want to look at him again.

[13:47] Jess McAnally: Did we notice the cameo from someone from *Dumb and Dumber*?

[13:52] Alan Seales: As a person who has yet to see *Dumb and Dumber* at the time of this recording, no.

[13:56] Jess McAnally: I bet that's really confusing to people listening to this in order.

[13:59] Alan Seales: Like, yeah, you did. I just heard you.

[14:00] Jess McAnally: I just listened to you talk about *Dumb and Dumber*. Like, no, no, I haven't watched it at the time of this recording. Never have, so eee!

[14:07] Alan Seales: Uh, the famous character of Seabass gets name-dropped at the end of this movie.

[14:13] Jess McAnally: Seabass, for those of you who may just be listening to this and haven't seen *Dumb and Dumber*, one of the most famous comedies of all time, Seabass was someone that Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels' character interacted with at a diner. They fuck him on a bill, and eventually meet up with him down the road, where Jim Carrey almost gets, uh, uh, uh, sexually assaulted in a bathroom by him. Um, and yeah, that fun-loving character is, just has a, a one-line cameo in this movie, because everyone remembered them so well.

[14:43] Alan Seales: What?

[14:44] Jess McAnally: Do you not remember this from *Dumb and Dumber*?

[14:46] Alan Seales: I can't wait to put the, okay, the clip will go right here.

[14:49] Jess McAnally: Well, okay, we have to have content. I, when we watch *Dumb and Dumber* and we see that scene, you're like, oh, is this what Jess was talking about? Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, to be fair, I haven't seen *Dumb and Dumber* since I watched it when I had my first kiss, and we'll get into that story. Yes, my first kiss happened in *Dumb and Dumber*, but we're not talking about that right now. We'll save that one for going into the past through the magic of time travel podcast recording.

[15:15] Alan Seales: I guess we should really talk about the premise of this movie.

[15:18] Jess McAnally: Sure.

[15:19] Alan Seales: Which—

[15:19] Jess McAnally: Oh boy.

[15:20] Alan Seales: You know, he's got double personalities, like the Hulk, but Jekyll and Hyde, um, and he—

[15:26] Jess McAnally: Well, they tell you why. This one, the first 20 to 30 minutes telling you why.

[15:30] Alan Seales: Oh, right.

[15:31] Jess McAnally: He got cucked by Tony Cox.

[15:33] Alan Seales: He got cucked by the coach from *The Love Guru*.

[15:36] Jess McAnally: Yep.

[15:37] Alan Seales: So, and—

[15:39] Jess McAnally: Who leaves him shortly after—

[15:40] Alan Seales: Wait, it's not that guy?

[15:42] Jess McAnally: You're thinking of Verne Troyer.

[15:43] Alan Seales: Damn!

[15:44] Jess McAnally: This is the elf from *Bad Santa*.

[15:45] Alan Seales: It's the elf from *Bad Santa*.

[15:47] Jess McAnally: That, that is, that is some sort of discrimination there.

[15:51] Alan Seales: Yeah, I was gonna say, they don't all look alike, Liz.

[15:54] Jess McAnally: Okay, they kind of do.

[15:59] Alan Seales: This is all getting cut.

[16:00] Jess McAnally: Anyway, let's redo that.

[16:01] Alan Seales: Let's redo that.

[16:03] Jess McAnally: He gets cucked by Tony Cox from *Bad Santa*, um, because, uh, I don't, because they, he wrongly assumes that, like, there's a weird scene where Jim Carrey says, hey, does your people take tips?

[16:17] Alan Seales: Take checks.

[16:18] Jess McAnally: Take checks.

[16:18] Alan Seales: Take checks.

[16:19] Jess McAnally: And he thought it was a race thing, and then he thought it was a little person thing, and then, um, his wife cucks Jim Carrey so much that she gives birth to triplets that are not white, and Jim Carrey raises them on the assumption that it's his, because, you know.

[16:37] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[16:38] Jess McAnally: Also, I'd like to point out, this is on the day of their wedding that she begins to have an affair with the limo driver.

[16:45] Alan Seales: Right, right, right.

[16:45] Jess McAnally: Well, she has, she, she has the eyebrow raise emotional thoughts on day, literally still in her wedding dress.

[16:52] Alan Seales: Day zero.

[16:53] Jess McAnally: She's wearing her wedding dress when she decides to have an affair.

[16:55] Alan Seales: Yes, yes.

[16:56] Jess McAnally: You're like, oh, that guy, that guy's cool. Ooh, this genius limo driver is really hot.

[17:00] Alan Seales: Yeah, it's just a social experiment.

[17:02] Jess McAnally: All right, so then they drive off, but before, they have a very open-mouthed, gratuitous tongue-kissing moment. I wonder whose idea that was.

[17:07] Alan Seales: Run.

[17:11] Jess McAnally: I don't want to insert you and insert the clip.

[17:14] Alan Seales: Yep.

[17:15] Jess McAnally: Um, and then Jim Carrey is left to raise the kids that don't technically belong to him, but he loves them very much, and they're all geniuses.

[17:23] Alan Seales: He has three genius kids that are, like, brilliant.

[17:27] Jess McAnally: But their names are Jamal, Lee Harvey, and Shantae Jr.

[17:31] Alan Seales: Because Shantae is the name of the limo driver.

[17:35] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[17:37] Alan Seales: So I like that we find that out, you know, after we meet the kids, what their names are.

[17:41] Jess McAnally: Way after we find out their names. I think that those kids are, uh, Anthony Anderson and Mongo Brownlee and Gerard Mixon are the three sons, and they grow up to be very brilliant, genius minds, brilliant minds, but they still very much talk in, I want to say, a white person's version of Ebonics.

[18:02] Alan Seales: Yes, that's a good one.

[18:03] Jess McAnally: Um, and that's the joke. Um, but however, these actors nail that joke so much that I almost, I think that the racism behind it swing shots around where I just kind of love these guys' characters and wish the movie was about them.

[18:20] Alan Seales: I mean, they need their own spinoff, along with Whitey.

[18:22] Jess McAnally: Let's not forget the discrimination against albinos.

[18:26] Alan Seales: Sorry, the name Whitey is triggering to me.

[18:28] Jess McAnally: Person who's seen *Crazy Nights*.

[18:30] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[18:31] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[18:31] Alan Seales: So there's this albino character.

[18:33] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[18:34] Alan Seales: And he's played by Michael Bowman, who has not been in any other movies.

[18:41] Jess McAnally: I hate to say that, but I like him.

[18:43] Alan Seales: I think he's fine. Like all the side characters are really, really fun and cool and much more interesting than the plot we're seeing, which is we haven't even talked about because there's so much other shit.

[18:54] Jess McAnally: So basically, what if a guy had multiple personalities has to escort a woman to safety because people are on the run trying to kill her?

[19:00] Alan Seales: That is the state trooper.

[19:04] Jess McAnally: Yes.

[19:04] Alan Seales: Yeah. And then and then the guy trying to kill her has got the cops in his pocket. So, like, you can't trust anybody. It's like a mob thing. She gets blamed for a car accident that she didn't actually do. It ends up being a financial scheme involving a golf course. And I don't get it. He becomes schizophrenic to deal with his unprocessed emotion of losing his wife to a limo driver.

[19:26] Alan Seales: If you break this down, this is the same plot as *Dumb and Dumber*.

[19:32] Jess McAnally: But if you remove the briefcase of money and replace it with literally a human being, it is the same premise as *Dumb and Dumber*.

[19:41] Alan Seales: And the romance is between the bromance is between Hank and Charlie who get to know each other. And yeah, that is the premise of this movie. It is literally the same like and they're like, you know, we all loved about *Dumb and Dumber*. The bad guy subplot. That was our favorite part of that movie. And they really amped it up.

[19:59] Jess McAnally: Also, quick correction, Michael Bowman has appeared in other things like like like really like anything anyone would be remembering him, mostly single episodes of TV shows in the early 2000s.

[20:12] Alan Seales: So he was in *City Guys*, *CSI* and *Betty* or *Bet*. I don't know how to say it, but he was had a few other credits in the same year.

[20:19] Jess McAnally: It wasn't anything with Shannon Worry.

[20:22] Alan Seales: No, that woman doesn't have that woman has way more credits than he does different kinds of credit.

[20:26] Jess McAnally: No, some are actual movies.

[20:29] Alan Seales: Really?

[20:29] Jess McAnally: Yeah. One of them are actual movies. They have Wikipedia pages.

[20:33] Alan Seales: I will say he is quoted talking about *Me, Myself and Irene*, Michael Bowman, if we are interested to hear his opinions on how he was represented.

[20:42] Jess McAnally: Oh, boy.

[20:42] Alan Seales: Play that clip. Tell me he is quoted saying when I first saw it on screen, I began to wonder how people are going to take it. I worried that sending the wrong message and that it's all right to make fun of the albino when it's not. If you're a little kid, you have to deal with being called Whitey or Q-Tip or a couple of those phrases that Jim Carrey and the Fairleys came up with.

[21:00] Jess McAnally: Of course, Jim Carrey came up with some of those.

[21:04] Alan Seales: That's that's the entire quote.

[21:06] Jess McAnally: Oh, God.

[21:08] Alan Seales: And awkward cricket noises.

[21:11] Jess McAnally: Yeah, I recognize this here. Also, I do have quotes from Jim Carrey about the schizophrenic thing.

[21:15] Alan Seales: Let's hear it.

[21:16] Jess McAnally: But I was interested this from a CNN article. But you have to read it in two different voices.

[21:21] Alan Seales: I am not an actor. I do not have that talent.

[21:25] Jess McAnally: Some would argue Jim Carrey didn't either.

[21:29] Alan Seales: Yes, you could argue.

[21:31] Jess McAnally: So the movie, which is Carrey portraying a man with two dueling personalities in love with Irene, played by real life flame Renee Zellweger, already has mental health advocates up in arms. They aren't amused by what they view as the film's negative portrayal of the mentally ill.

[21:43] Alan Seales: Carrey isn't bothered, quote, at the heart of the movie, like at the heart of a movie like this. There's a very good heart. There's very good intention. And that is to make people not care and to nail things that we all do. And we all talk about. But nobody has the guts to show.

[22:01] Jess McAnally: He also did say he might go into bestiality if he had to.

[22:05] Alan Seales: And the breastfeeding scene kind of broke him.

[22:07] Jess McAnally: Broke him.

[22:08] Alan Seales: You can't just throw that shit at the end. You know, I think I'm going to go into my incest fascination. And you know what? I think I was broken by breaking my back.

[22:18] Jess McAnally: Okay, you just throw two other things in there.

[22:21] Alan Seales: All right, I'll read the quote about the breastfeeding scene then.

[22:23] Jess McAnally: Okay, so yeah, that's cool. It's very rare when I get to a place where I where I'm actually kind of humiliated. This was one of those. I might I may have thought that up. I don't know. I forgot what the process on that was. I was embarrassed for the girl.

[22:38] Alan Seales: But isn't she an adult film star?

[22:39] Jess McAnally: No, she's an actual actress.

[22:42] Alan Seales: Like she has real credits.

[22:44] Jess McAnally: And he's about to be, I think he says, I was going to say I won't do bestiality, but I've done that. I don't know where the line is yet.

[22:51] Alan Seales: So about how far he'll go.

[22:53] Jess McAnally: No, I'm just trying to say I don't remember bestiality. Did he have sex with the cow? What did he did? I missed that part.

[22:56] Alan Seales: I think there's no bestiality in this movie.

[23:00] Jess McAnally: I don't want in my Google search Jim Carrey bestiality.

[23:04] Alan Seales: I don't think I'm putting it in my search. Incognito man, incognito mode, please.

[23:09] Jess McAnally: It doesn't stop it from going to your internet.

[23:11] Alan Seales: Nope, nope, nope.

[23:13] Jess McAnally: I'm assuming it's something out of *Ace Ventura*, like where he like kisses an animal or something.

[23:18] Alan Seales: Probably.

[23:33] Jess McAnally: On that note, how about we compare our opinions to those of the real critics?

[23:38] Alan Seales: Who has reviewed this movie?

[23:40] Jess McAnally: Do we got a Roger Ebert?

[23:41] Alan Seales: We got a Roger Ebert.

[23:42] Jess McAnally: He's easy to access and doesn't make me pay money.

[23:45] Alan Seales: Yeah. Can I read it?

[23:47] Jess McAnally: Absolutely.

[23:48] Alan Seales: All right. This is from Roger Ebert to the *Chicago Sun-Times*, written June 23rd, 2000. The movie has defecation jokes, urination jokes, dildo jokes, flasher jokes, and a chicken that must be thoroughly annoyed by the dilemma it finds itself in.

[24:03] Jess McAnally: For the context, the chicken had its head shoved up an ass.

[24:06] Alan Seales: Yeah, an actual human ass. It was pretty cool.

[24:09] Jess McAnally: I doubt it was a real chicken. Just thought, just thought.

[24:12] Alan Seales: Although the boys debating the diameter of a chicken to figure out if it would die was very funny.

[24:17] Jess McAnally: That was a great scene.

[24:18] Alan Seales: That was actually pretty funny.

[24:20] Jess McAnally: That was.

[24:20] Alan Seales: I'll take that bet.

[24:22] Jess McAnally: Yeah, there you go. Like, I love it. I love it. I love those characters.

[24:25] Alan Seales: They're fun.

[24:27] Jess McAnally: They are good.

[24:28] Alan Seales: They are good on their own.

[24:30] Jess McAnally: They just don't fit the rest of the movie.

[24:32] Alan Seales: Anyway, let's move on. Not many of the jokes are very funny, and some seem plain desperate. I did laugh a lot during the sequence when Carrie tries to put a wounded cow out of its misery. But most of the time I sat quietly reflecting that the Farley brothers brand of humor is that a high wire act involves great risks and is a triumph if they get the other side, but ugly when they fall.

[24:55] Jess McAnally: And I truly believe that because honestly, *Dumb and Dumber 2*, their sequel to *Dumb and Dumber* hits closer to *Me, Myself and Irene* than the first *Dumb and Dumber*. Like, it feels much more in tone to this.

[25:07] Alan Seales: You mean like, in your opinion, not so good?

[25:10] Jess McAnally: I mean, tonally, like, as far as like the tone of the film.

[25:14] Alan Seales: Is this *Dumb and Dumber 2*?

[25:17] Jess McAnally: Yeah, T-O.

[25:18] Alan Seales: Oh, T-O, okay.

[25:20] Jess McAnally: Which also we have not seen.

[25:22] Alan Seales: I've seen it, but we haven't seen it.

[25:24] Jess McAnally: At the time of this recording.

[25:26] Alan Seales: At the time of this current recording, none of us have seen *Dumb and Dumber 2*.

[25:29] Alan Seales: Correct. Or one. Well, since I was...

[25:32] Jess McAnally: Only I have not seen one, because I'm uncultured.

[25:36] Alan Seales: I've seen them both.

[25:38] Jess McAnally: I'm so sorry.

[25:39] Alan Seales: The second Dumb and Dumber is much closer in tone.

[25:42] Jess McAnally: In fact, this is much closer in tone to a lot of their other work.

[25:46] Alan Seales: Was anyone a Something About Mary fan?

[25:48] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[25:49] Alan Seales: Hi, I am. I'm one of those.

[25:50] Jess McAnally: Yes.

[25:51] Alan Seales: That is closer to Dumb and Dumber, and I think toes that comedic line very well.

[25:56] Jess McAnally: Also, it's an actual decent rom-com, if you look under the surface.

[26:00] Alan Seales: So good on you, Farley Brothers.

[26:01] Jess McAnally: Well, I just like Ben Stiller's crew of friends, actors, and scriptwriting.

[26:06] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[26:06] Jess McAnally: Yes, that is a heavy involvement.

[26:09] Alan Seales: Except for that one time with the cable guy.

[26:10] Jess McAnally: But that's a different story.

[26:12] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[26:12] Jess McAnally: And then we've got things like Osmosis Jones,

[26:16] Alan Seales: Shallow Hal, The Ringer, the Heartbreak Kid remake, Hall Pass.

[26:20] Jess McAnally: Those all feel a little mean, a little desperate, falling off the high wire.

[26:26] Alan Seales: Osmosis Jones less so because it has really great animation holding it up.

[26:30] Jess McAnally: And it's marketed for kids.

[26:31] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[26:32] Jess McAnally: Yeah, but that almost makes it worse.

[26:34] Alan Seales: It's true.

[26:35] Jess McAnally: Yeah, I watched it too young.

[26:37] Alan Seales: Shall we play a game?

[26:39] Jess McAnally: Yes, it's time for the Letterboxd game.

[26:41] Alan Seales: Almost called you fucking Bree.

[26:43] Jess McAnally: Is that like calling the wrong woman's name out in bed?

[26:47] Alan Seales: Podcast bed.

[26:48] Jess McAnally: Yeah, in podcast bed.

[26:50] Alan Seales: Oh, God.

[26:51] Jess McAnally: Ew.

[26:52] Alan Seales: So you're cheating on podcast, Liz.

[26:54] Jess McAnally: With podcast Bree.

[26:55] Alan Seales: Oh, no.

[26:56] Jess McAnally: Oh, no.

[26:57] Alan Seales: I didn't like that.

[26:58] Jess McAnally: All right.

[26:58] Alan Seales: What's this game, Liz?

[27:00] Jess McAnally: Oh, no.

[27:02] Alan Seales: Oh, no.

[27:03] Jess McAnally: I don't know how to respond to any of this.

[27:05] Alan Seales: I'm so sorry.

[27:07] Jess McAnally: I'm just I am very uncomfortable with it.

[27:09] Alan Seales: But I was very uncomfortable with saying it.

[27:11] Jess McAnally: Yeah, I'll cut this part of the episode.

[27:13] Alan Seales: But for our upcoming rebrand,

[27:15] Jess McAnally: Jess put a Chapel Roans album on the list that we're going to talk about.

[27:19] Alan Seales: And I'm just waiting for him to ask me random questions about

[27:23] Jess McAnally: some of the lyrics that only I can talk about,

[27:25] Alan Seales: like the down in the passenger seat line from Casual.

[27:29] Jess McAnally: What? I can talk about that.

[27:32] Alan Seales: I'm just preparing.

[27:33] Jess McAnally: You think I can't talk about that?

[27:36] Alan Seales: You could technically talk about that.

[27:38] Jess McAnally: Wait, side note.

[27:39] Alan Seales: What are you rebranding as?

[27:40] Jess McAnally: I don't think you ever told me.

[27:41] Alan Seales: The Cheese Wheel.

[27:42] Jess McAnally: The Cheese Wheel.

[27:43] Alan Seales: Right.

[27:43] Jess McAnally: But you're talking about music?

[27:45] Alan Seales: No, we are talking about everything.

[27:47] Jess McAnally: Variety.

[27:48] Alan Seales: OK.

[27:49] Jess McAnally: We are broadening our audience and then putting our hyper fixations on a wheel

[27:53] Alan Seales: so that it's a gamified thing every week.

[27:57] Jess McAnally: Let us email social with your video or like before it gets posted

[28:02] Alan Seales: so we can help like do big launch with you.

[28:04] Jess McAnally: Yeah, I was wondering if I was going to ask if we could do a trailer.

[28:07] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[28:07] Jess McAnally: Kind of to put on things.

[28:09] Alan Seales: Because I've got a vibe that our first episode is going to be big

[28:13] Jess McAnally: because it is kind of a hotly excited for thing.

[28:16] Alan Seales: Yeah, we've been hyping it up for a little while too.

[28:18] Jess McAnally: Yeah, so if you send over like a private link to the video,

[28:21] Alan Seales: we can pull some clips and like make things out of it and stuff.

[28:23] Jess McAnally: Yeah, we will.

[28:24] Alan Seales: We're recording it Thursday, so I'll send it to you Friday if that's all right.

[28:27] Jess McAnally: Are you recording Kickassia on Thursday?

[28:28] Alan Seales: Yes, we are.

[28:29] Jess McAnally: OK, I did not know that.

[28:30] Alan Seales: Uh, I'm so sorry.

[28:31] Jess McAnally: Schedule, schedule.

[28:32] Alan Seales: Shake your schedule podcast, Liz.

[28:34] Jess McAnally: OK, let's play.

[28:34] Alan Seales: I forgot to check the musicals at Cheese Drive

[28:36] because he puts the date on the link to the stuff anyway.

[28:40] Jess McAnally: I have not put anything in there.

[28:41] Alan Seales: Kickassia is on YouTube and you've listened to the Chaperone album.

[28:46] Jess McAnally: Andrew's trying to pitch us doing the Chaperone album with the Charlie XCX thing.

[28:50] Alan Seales: I love that.

[28:51] Jess McAnally: Wait, are we doing just Kickassia or also Waitress?

[28:53] Alan Seales: We're doing, we pushed Waitress because we had to do something quick.

[28:58] Jess McAnally: So we're doing Chaperone next.

[28:59] Alan Seales: So we're doing Chaperone and Kickassia.

[29:01] Jess McAnally: OK.

[29:02] Alan Seales: Yes, and then we'll do Waitress when we come back.

[29:04] Jess McAnally: Cool.

[29:04] Alan Seales: So they just swapped.

[29:06] Jess McAnally: All right, cool.

[29:06] Alan Seales: I didn't know this.

[29:07] Jess McAnally: I was away for a week.

[29:08] Alan Seales: I'm behind.

[29:09] Jess McAnally: Yeah, it's OK.

[29:11] Alan Seales: You and I have to have a little meeting sometime before Thursday, though.

[29:13] Jess McAnally: Just about what Thursday's going to be.

[29:16] Alan Seales: Oh, about like what the recording's going to be like?

[29:18] Jess McAnally: OK, cool.

[29:19] Alan Seales: All right.

[29:19] Jess McAnally: Just a minute.

[29:19] Alan Seales: All right.

[29:20] Jess McAnally: Letterboxd game.

[29:20] Alan Seales: How do we play?

[29:21] Jess McAnally: Back to the game.

[29:22] Alan Seales: All right.

[29:22] Jess McAnally: And this is your first episode.

[29:25] Alan Seales: Guess you're a really big fan of the Farley brothers and you skipped Dubbin' Dubber.

[29:28] Jess McAnally: So good on you for jumping to me, myself and Irene.

[29:33] Alan Seales: Anyway, here's the gist.

[29:35] Jess McAnally: I went on Letterboxd and I looked up one or five star reviews of me, myself and Irene.

[29:39] Alan Seales: And Jess and Alan have to guess, based on very little context,

[29:43] Jess McAnally: if these are positive or negative reviews.

[29:45] Alan Seales: I'm ready.

[29:46] Jess McAnally: I'm excited.

[29:47] Alan Seales: And also, I just imagine someone jumping this because it was just the only VHS they owned.

[29:52] Jess McAnally: We're in the days where there's just like one movie that you happen to own.

[29:55] Alan Seales: And it's just like hyper fixated.

[29:57] Jess McAnally: Doesn't matter if it's good.

[29:58] Alan Seales: You know every word.

[29:59] Jess McAnally: This is mine was Elmo in Grouchland.

[30:03] Jess McAnally: Yeah, I just find it.

[30:05] Alan Seales: This is when Columbia House went to VHS.

[30:05] Alan Seales: Oh, you're too young for Columbia House.

[30:07] Jess McAnally: Jesus, do you have any clue what that is?

[30:09] Alan Seales: I don't know what the fuck that is, Alan.

[30:11] Jess McAnally: Alan, I barely know who you are.

[30:14] Alan Seales: We're youds.

[30:16] Jess McAnally: Thank you?

[30:17] Alan Seales: No, okay.

[30:18] Jess McAnally: So before there was this thing called the internet, there was a mail order.

[30:24] Alan Seales: And you would get these brochures in the mail of like this giant catalog of VHS tapes.

[30:31] Jess McAnally: First it was CDs.

[30:32] Alan Seales: I can't remember which came first, CDs or VHS.

[30:35] Jess McAnally: And like if you signed up, you got 10 free CDs, right?

[30:39] Alan Seales: So you're like, I'm going to do a month-long monthly subscription.

[30:43] Jess McAnally: And to start, I'll get 10 free CDs.

[30:45] Alan Seales: And so like you get X number of CDs every other month or every month after that.

[30:49] Jess McAnally: But the loophole was that as soon as you got your 10 CDs,

[30:51] Alan Seales: you could just cancel without paying anything because you got the first month for free.

[30:55] Jess McAnally: So if you kept signing up under different names,

[30:57] Alan Seales: you could just keep getting different free freaking bundles of CDs.

[31:01] Jess McAnally: That's how I got all my CDs as a kid through like Columbia House.

[31:05] Alan Seales: And then they went bankrupt because everybody else did it too.

[31:08] Jess McAnally: Anyway.

[31:08] Alan Seales: So the answer to that question is Alan's old.

[31:13] Jess McAnally: Alan is old.

[31:15] Alan Seales: Listen, I just started wearing my socks pulled up.

[31:18] Jess McAnally: OK, so I feel young people are doing that now.

[31:22] Alan Seales: I know.

[31:23] Jess McAnally: And so I'm going to be a Utes too.

[31:25] Alan Seales: And I'm going to pull my socks up.

[31:27] Jess McAnally: I'm going to be a Utes.

[31:28] Alan Seales: All right.

[31:28] Jess McAnally: Let's play a game that the Utes play.

[31:30] Alan Seales: All right, Jess, you're going to go first since Alan is old.

[31:33] Jess McAnally: So I'm going to give him a second.

[31:35] Alan Seales: It's OK.

[31:36] Jess McAnally: He's going to die first.

[31:37] Alan Seales: Yeah, not at this rate.

[31:40] Jess McAnally: All right, Jess, are you ready?

[31:41] Alan Seales: Yes, I am, Jess.

[31:43] Jess McAnally: I wish Jim Carrey was my dad.

[31:47] Alan Seales: Him, Jim Carrey.

[31:48] Jess McAnally: I wonder if Jim Carrey's daughter wishes that.

[31:52] Alan Seales: You know, don't compare me to him because I'll never be him.

[31:52] Jess McAnally: Jim Carrey, that is a one.

[31:57] Alan Seales: That is correct.

[31:58] Jess McAnally: Hey, Alan, are you ready?

[32:02] Alan Seales: Jess, I am.

[32:04] Jess McAnally: Fight Club ain't got shit on this.

[32:07] Alan Seales: Mm hmm.

[32:09] Jess McAnally: That did come first.

[32:10] Alan Seales: So it does have one thing on it.

[32:11] Jess McAnally: That is that is a shitty Fight Club.

[32:15] Alan Seales: I'm just going to go.

[32:16] Jess McAnally: I'm going to go with a with five.

[32:19] Alan Seales: That's right.

[32:20] Jess McAnally: How does a Marla Singer have more of a personality than fucking Irene?

[32:24] Alan Seales: I don't know.

[32:24] Jess McAnally: Irene has so much more time on screen.

[32:28] Alan Seales: Yeah, but I remember everything Marla did.

[32:33] Jess McAnally: Anyway, Jess, are you ready?

[32:35] Alan Seales: Jess, I am.

[32:35] Jess McAnally: This is an experience.

[32:38] Alan Seales: That's Alan after he smokes his doobie.

[32:40] Jess McAnally: That's a five.

[32:42] Alan Seales: That's right.

[32:43] Jess McAnally: What?

[32:44] Alan Seales: It's legal in New York.

[32:46] Jess McAnally: You know, it's legal in Michigan,

[32:48] Alan Seales: but you still can't have it in your piss when you start a new job.

[32:51] Jess McAnally: It's not legal in my state.

[32:53] Alan Seales: I have to go to New Jersey.

[32:54] Jess McAnally: Find me a new job, Alan.

[32:55] Alan Seales: No one's hiring on it.

[32:57] Jess McAnally: Alan, can you find me a job while you're at it?

[33:02] Alan Seales: Yeah, employ.

[33:03] Jess McAnally: So 10 to 6 is not a reasonable time to be working.

[33:07] Alan Seales: Let's go start a podcast.

[33:09] Jess McAnally: No, let's start a business where we cater to the rich and then we steal from them.

[33:19] Alan Seales: We send them a bunch of VHS tapes in a brochure and, you know,

[33:24] Jess McAnally: we just send her the first 10 for free and then we get them in

[33:28] Alan Seales: and then they'll buy our real VHS tapes.

[33:31] Jess McAnally: Wait a second.

[33:32] Alan Seales: That means we need to go out and shoot standard definition.

[33:36] Jess McAnally: And I don't know where we just take a 4K Blu-ray and we just put it onto a VHS

[33:44] Alan Seales: and then put pillar boxes on it.

[33:46] Jess McAnally: OK, OK.

[33:47] Alan Seales: Now we just zoom in.

[33:48] Jess McAnally: We zoom in.

[33:49] Alan Seales: That's all we got to do.

[33:49] Jess McAnally: Pan and scan, motherfuckers.

[33:52] Alan Seales: Pan and scan, bitches.

[33:53] Jess McAnally: I wonder how much better these comedies would look if they were just pan and scanned.

[33:57] Alan Seales: Like part of me is like I should just upload a pan and scan copy of like

[34:00] Jess McAnally: a 90s film and see if it's just for those who don't know what's a pan and scan.

[34:04] Alan Seales: I'll pan and scan.

[34:05] Jess McAnally: So in the before Internet times, all films were shot in either a 16 by 9 or 2.351 ratio,

[34:17] Alan Seales: which fills up an entire theater screen.

[34:19] Jess McAnally: However, in those days, we were working on tube TVs, which are square.

[34:24] Alan Seales: So four by three.

[34:25] Jess McAnally: So if you you can't squeeze them all in.

[34:27] Alan Seales: And instead of putting letterboxes on the top and bottom of the screen where people

[34:32] Jess McAnally: would have a fucking conniption fit because I'm missing the screen, I can't see.

[34:35] Alan Seales: But no, you're getting more.

[34:36] Jess McAnally: You idiots.

[34:38] Alan Seales: They would just zoom in into the movie and to whoever's talking and lazily push it back

[34:43] Jess McAnally: and forth between who is talking.

[34:45] Alan Seales: However, however, it does tend to make a claustrophobic effect.

[34:50] Jess McAnally: So something like Alien is really effective in pan and scan because you can't see shit

[34:55] Alan Seales: and the screen is all kind of focused in, but it's not an ideal way and it is not the

[35:00] Jess McAnally: director's mission.

[35:01] Alan Seales: But but but there was a kind of fun effect from it that is lost on the use now.

[35:08] Jess McAnally: And a lot of films that you thought looked really good or were actually good was actually

[35:12] Alan Seales: just kind of shit and vice versa.

[35:15] Jess McAnally: Because you saw them pan and scanned.

[35:17] Alan Seales: Yep.

[35:18] Jess McAnally: Yes, yes.

[35:19] Alan Seales: And.

[35:20] Jess McAnally: But you realize I'm going to cut most of this bit, right?

[35:23] Alan Seales: It's not a bit.

[35:23] Jess McAnally: This is me educating legitimately.

[35:26] Alan Seales: This is OK.

[35:27] Jess McAnally: We're going to talk about.

[35:27] Alan Seales: OK, next next review.

[35:30] Jess McAnally: It's my turn.

[35:31] Alan Seales: I'll keep it.

[35:31] Jess McAnally: I'll keep it.

[35:32] Alan Seales: I'm not going to get to this for like 8000 years.

[35:34] Jess McAnally: Probably can play like really annoying elevator music.

[35:40] Alan Seales: I'll play this channel.

[35:40] Jess McAnally: Awesome.

[35:41] Alan Seales: And here's something that's more interesting than what they were talking about.

[35:47] Jess McAnally: Now play the Jeopardy like Final Jeopardy music.

[35:50] Alan Seales: That's perfect.

[35:51] Jess McAnally: I think it's just long enough.

[35:53] Alan Seales: Yeah, just loop it until you guys are done talking.

[35:55] Jess McAnally: And Alan, are you ready?

[35:57] Alan Seales: Alan Nichols.

[35:59] Jess McAnally: I think they should be.

[36:00] Alan Seales: They should have made a spinoff about his three sons.

[36:03] Jess McAnally: Oh, I'd agree.

[36:04] Alan Seales: That's what we said.

[36:06] Jess McAnally: Why did I turn into an old man there?

[36:08] Alan Seales: That's what we said.

[36:08] Jess McAnally: Turn into?

[36:09] Alan Seales: Turn into an old man.

[36:11] Jess McAnally: Oh, got you, bitch.

[36:15] Alan Seales: That's what my kids say.

[36:16] Jess McAnally: You got roasted, dad.

[36:19] Alan Seales: Based.

[36:21] Jess McAnally: Based.

[36:22] Alan Seales: Skibitty.

[36:23] Jess McAnally: Should have made a spinoff.

[36:24] Alan Seales: That's a one.

[36:24] Jess McAnally: That's a five.

[36:25] Alan Seales: No!

[36:27] Jess McAnally: No!

[36:28] Alan Seales: That was a clean five.

[36:30] Jess McAnally: That was not a clean five.

[36:31] Alan Seales: That was like, I didn't like the movie.

[36:32] Jess McAnally: They should have made a spinoff.

[36:34] Alan Seales: One star.

[36:34] Jess McAnally: That's where my mind went.

[36:35] Alan Seales: But you can also term it as the sons were awesome.

[36:38] Jess McAnally: Five stars.

[36:39] Alan Seales: Right, the sons were awesome.

[36:40] Jess McAnally: They didn't fit in this movie.

[36:41] Alan Seales: I agree with Alan, even though I don't know who Alan is.

[36:43] Jess McAnally: One star.

[36:44] Alan Seales: Jess, are you ready?

[36:45] Jess McAnally: I agree with Alan, even though I don't know who Alan is.

[36:49] Alan Seales: No bitches after 11.

[36:51] Jess McAnally: That's right.

[36:51] Alan Seales: That's right.

[36:52] Jess McAnally: That's a good quote.

[36:55] Alan Seales: They did find a general joy of Jim Carrey saying Ebonics in an uptight and proper way.

[37:01] Jess McAnally: Like, there is a joke to that.

[37:03] Alan Seales: Like, there is an effective kind of.

[37:05] Jess McAnally: But there is an underlying racism there, too.

[37:08] Alan Seales: Like, I have both sides of that coin.

[37:11] Jess McAnally: Just like, I have a Hank and Charlie in my head.

[37:14] Alan Seales: But I think that's a one star.

[37:16] Jess McAnally: That's correct.

[37:18] Alan Seales: Are you ready?

[37:19] Jess McAnally: Uh-huh.

[37:20] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[37:21] Jess McAnally: Spin off.

[37:22] Alan Seales: Inside every straight man is another man who just wants a dildo in his ass.

[37:28] Jess McAnally: Because there's probably truths to that.

[37:30] Alan Seales: I'm going with a five.

[37:31] Jess McAnally: It's actually a one.

[37:35] Alan Seales: I mean, with the popularity of pegging nowadays.

[37:38] Jess McAnally: Right.

[37:38] Alan Seales: True.

[37:39] Jess McAnally: Right.

[37:40] Alan Seales: This person just wasn't in touch with their femininity or masculinity, I guess.

[37:43] Jess McAnally: It doesn't matter.

[37:44] Alan Seales: For their sexuality.

[37:45] Jess McAnally: Sexuality.

[37:46] Alan Seales: We'll go with that.

[37:46] Jess McAnally: Sexuality.

[37:48] Alan Seales: Jess, are you ready?

[37:49] Jess McAnally: Why did he wash his ass out in the sink?

[37:51] Alan Seales: That always bothered me.

[37:53] Jess McAnally: Yeah, that's a good question.

[37:54] Alan Seales: Why did he go to the shower?

[37:56] Jess McAnally: Like, I don't know.

[37:57] Alan Seales: I can't fit a camera in the shower.

[37:58] Jess McAnally: There's like some really cringe lines.

[38:01] Alan Seales: Like, why am I peeing like I was up all night having sex?

[38:05] Jess McAnally: Yeah, I didn't relate to that one.

[38:07] Alan Seales: I don't get that at all.

[38:08] Jess McAnally: Gotta admit.

[38:09] Alan Seales: Do not relate.

[38:10] Jess McAnally: Bro, you gotta pee after sex or you're gonna get it, you know.

[38:14] Alan Seales: What is it? UTI.

[38:15] Jess McAnally: UTI.

[38:15] Alan Seales: And yes, men can get UTIs.

[38:18] Jess McAnally: Oh, yes, that is correct.

[38:20] Alan Seales: But you would know which direction it's pointing before you release the stream.

[38:24] Jess McAnally: Well, sometimes the stream comes out in different... it goes like Ghostbusters.

[38:30] Alan Seales: Especially if you're up all night having sex, Alan.

[38:33] Jess McAnally: Sorry. Next one, Liz.

[38:36] Alan Seales: I need a minute.

[38:36] Jess McAnally: I'm on a roll here, and Liz is going to cut all the gold.

[38:44] Alan Seales: No, no, I won't. No, I'll keep it. I'll just keep the part where I get uncomfortable.

[38:48] Jess McAnally: This is time for our UTI education corner.

[38:53] Alan Seales: Roll that clip.

[38:55] Jess McAnally: No, that clip played way earlier, Alan. Trust me.

[38:58] Alan Seales: Gotcha.

[39:00] Jess McAnally: All right, who's turn is it? Oh, Jess, you didn't answer.

[39:04] Alan Seales: Yeah, I did. I was one.

[39:05] Jess McAnally: Oh, yeah, that's right. So it's Alan's turn.

[39:08] Alan Seales: No bitches after 11.

[39:09] Jess McAnally: Cheese, I am.

[39:10] Alan Seales: Okay.

[39:11] Jess McAnally: Cheese me.

[39:11] Alan Seales: His chin looks easy to draw.

[39:14] Jess McAnally: It's kind of like Peter Griffin's chin.

[39:15] Alan Seales: It does. It looks just like Peter Griffin's chin.

[39:17] Jess McAnally: That's a five star.

[39:19] Alan Seales: That's correct.

[39:19] Jess McAnally: Yeah, yeah, that's good. I like drawing kind of review.

[39:22] Alan Seales: Yeah. All right, two more.

[39:25] Jess McAnally: Okay, who's winning? Is it me?

[39:27] Alan Seales: Yeah, Jess, you're winning.

[39:28] Jess McAnally: I'm better than everyone.

[39:30] Alan Seales: Jess, are you ready?

[39:31] Jess McAnally: Yes, I am.

[39:32] Alan Seales: Jess, I am.

[39:33] Jess McAnally: If I was a guy, I'd absorb Hank's personality.

[39:36] Alan Seales: Absorb it? Is he a superhero?

[39:38] Jess McAnally: She, because they said they're if they were a guy.

[39:41] Alan Seales: Yeah.

[39:41] Jess McAnally: So it's a she or a they.

[39:43] Alan Seales: Oh, I forgot the days. I'm sorry.

[39:44] Jess McAnally: It's going to be a they.

[39:45] Alan Seales: Don't cancel me.

[39:47] Jess McAnally: Jess is canceled.

[39:48] Alan Seales: You're canceled for way worse.

[39:50] Jess McAnally: I think I think they are looking up to Hank.

[39:54] Alan Seales: So that's a five.

[39:55] Jess McAnally: That's correct.

[39:56] Alan Seales: Yeah, it's an aspiration to be Hank.

[39:57] Jess McAnally: I would have gone. Yeah, you want to you want to be balls out.

[40:01] Alan Seales: All right, Alan, I'm going to I'm going to give you a lifeline here.

[40:04] Jess McAnally: I actually have two more.

[40:05] Alan Seales: I was going to cut the other one.

[40:07] Jess McAnally: But if you get these two right, you'll talk.

[40:09] Alan Seales: Oh, I get two in a row.

[40:10] Jess McAnally: And this is how to get rigged.

[40:15] Alan Seales: I'm going to break the rule.

[40:17] Jess McAnally: Alan, you have two chances to talk.

[40:19] Alan Seales: You have two chances.

[40:20] Jess McAnally: OK, OK, OK.

[40:22] Alan Seales: I've never felt more pressure in my life.

[40:23] Jess McAnally: OK, I got to get this right.

[40:24] Alan Seales: Don't fuck it up, man.

[40:25] Jess McAnally: Don't fuck it up, Alan.

[40:26] Alan Seales: Damn it.

[40:27] Jess McAnally: Ready?

[40:27] Alan Seales: Yes.

[40:27] Jess McAnally: No.

[40:28] Alan Seales: Yes.

[40:28] Jess McAnally: This is the first one.

[40:29] Alan Seales: OK, brilliant.

[40:30] Jess McAnally: Fuck.

[40:32] Alan Seales: Sounds pretty positive to me, Alan.

[40:33] Jess McAnally: Brilliant.

[40:34] Alan Seales: I know.

[40:34] Jess McAnally: I know it does sound positive, but that's where Liz always tries to get me.

[40:37] Alan Seales: I don't think she does.

[40:39] Jess McAnally: OK, five star.

[40:40] Alan Seales: It's a one.

[40:40] Jess McAnally: I knew it.

[40:41] Alan Seales: I knew it.

[40:42] Jess McAnally: God damn it, Jesse.

[40:44] Alan Seales: I'll give you the last one just because I can.

[40:46] Jess McAnally: Bonus two points.

[40:47] Alan Seales: Sure.

[40:48] Jess McAnally: This game has no rules.

[40:49] Alan Seales: Who gives a shit?

[40:51] Jess McAnally: Jim Carrey plays a schizo a little too well.

[40:54] Alan Seales: Five.

[40:54] Jess McAnally: That's a one.

[40:55] Alan Seales: So damn it.

[40:56] Jess McAnally: You gave me two ones at the end.

[40:58] Alan Seales: Come on.

[41:00] Jess McAnally: A lot of people hate this movie on Letterboxd, OK?

[41:03] Alan Seales: It's really hard to find positive reviews.

[41:05] Jess McAnally: I mean, I get it.

[41:06] Alan Seales: I don't love this movie.

[41:07] Jess McAnally: It's his favorite movie.

[41:08] Alan Seales: I didn't love it.

[41:10] Jess McAnally: Oh my God, Jim Carrey.

[41:12] Alan Seales: So good, so hot, so amazing.

[41:14] Jess McAnally: And I can't just give you that.

[41:15] Alan Seales: That's a dead giveaway.

[41:16] Jess McAnally: You were finger-tutting right there.

[41:17] Alan Seales: I was, yes.

[41:18] Jess McAnally: You're totally finger-tutting.

[41:20] Alan Seales: I gotta say, Jim Carrey has never looked worse in a movie.

[41:23] Jess McAnally: He looks so bad in this movie.

[41:25] Alan Seales: You don't like the chin bandage?

[41:26] Jess McAnally: No, it was awful.

[41:27] Alan Seales: And the mustache is too thick.

[41:29] Jess McAnally: And everything is bad.

[41:30] Alan Seales: And the whistling nose.

[41:31] Jess McAnally: There's so much stuff in this movie that I'm just like...

[41:33] Alan Seales: There's a lot happening here.

[41:35] Jess McAnally: All right. Well, I want to, on record, say I did not say I loved it.

[41:39] Alan Seales: I said I thought it was good.

[41:41] Jess McAnally: Anyway, now that we finished our game.

[41:43] Alan Seales: I think it's time to wrap up this episode.

[41:46] Jess McAnally: All right, guys. Let's hear your overall thoughts and hear if it's an all righty then or a no spank you.

[41:53] Alan Seales: You go first.

[41:54] Jess McAnally: I will go first. I think that this movie's not great. I actually really like the vibes. This could have been a real good, cozy, chill vibes movie if they aimed for a PG-13. But the hard R and the really kind of vulgarity of it. If they'd just kind of gone a little tamer with this, I think this would have been a little bit more of a classic and a little bit more well-regarded. But I think the fact that they're going so balls to the walls with it and making a proper disgusting comedy really undercuts the cutesiness of the romance, the narrator, and all the other pieces. And the things I like are just not big enough pieces. The side characters outrank every one of our leads. And there's just so many just disgusting, unpleasant things.

And even when our characters are meant to be nice, they're kind of cruel and mean. And it's just not to say that everyone has to be likable. But it's just kind of an unpleasant thing to watch. So I'm giving this a respectable no spank you.

[43:00] Alan Seales: I need to hear Liz. I need to hear Liz next.

[43:02] Jess McAnally: Okay, you want to find out if you're being contrarian or not?

[43:06] Alan Seales: Am I being contrarian?

[43:07] Jess McAnally: Oh, I thought you were yelling at me. I was like, I wasn't even contrarian!

[43:10] Alan Seales: No, I think Alan wants to find out if he's going to be a contrarian once I say my thoughts.

[43:16] Jess McAnally: All right, so I think Jess is right. If this is PG-13, this is the makings of a pleasant 2000s comedy that airs on FX all the time, and you just put it on because you can.

[43:29] Alan Seales: I don't mean to interrupt you, Liz. But it's funny that you say FX, because the first time I ever watched this, it was recorded on tape off FX. And it was like the DVD Duesday, where they have all the bonus features in between.

[43:41] Liz: Oh my god, that's amazing!

[43:43] Alan Seales: So I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I did want to throw that one out there.

[43:46] Liz: Oh, you're fine. I'm a FX movie, so I was right.

[43:48] Alan Seales: You were 100% right.

[43:50] Liz: Hell yeah. But it feels like you could have been like a pleasant PG-13 rom-com action comedy thing you put on FX on a Saturday when there's nothing else to do on the beach, on your beach vacation or the middle of the day, like you're doing nothing. But it ended up just being a weird, gross sex movie with like, I know we didn't talk about this much, but the implied sexual assault of many early 2000s comedies is really disgusting nowadays. Watching it in newer contexts where we understand these things, especially things like stealthing, which we didn't talk about to like the 2010s, but still like a thing to this. It's still a big thing, and we got to keep talking about it. And it's like, there's a lot of consent things that just go weird in this movie and a lot of the 2000s comedies.

And this movie is just kind of weird. Jim Carrey isn't good in it, to be perfectly honest with you. Rene Zellweger's fine. The Three Sons are great. But there's like nothing working here fully besides the three kids. They're in a different movie entirely. And I want to watch that one. But I'm watching Rene Zellweger and his then fiance have like minimal chemistry walking in the woods. Like, eh, I'm good. So I'm going to give it a very respectable no spank you. You tried, I respect it. But you shouldn't have made the weird poop and sex jokes. You should have just done a weird, pleasant rom-com. And also the cooking. Why the hell are we cooking, people? Like, come on.

[45:18] Jess McAnally: Truly, I really want to reinforce a lot of what Liz said here. But it could have been just better if you made Irene the main character instead of Charlie.

[45:29] Alan Seales: Yeah, but the Farley brothers can barely write a woman. They got one with Mary, but we're just scraping on that one.

[45:37] Jess McAnally: So I wanted to hear you two go first. So I can be an asshole.

[45:41] Alan Seales: So you can tell me, no, at the altar at Love is Blunt. I'm kidding.

[45:44] Jess McAnally: Yes.

[45:45] Alan Seales: Sorry, that happened at Love is Blunt season four. I had to make that joke. It happens in every season.

[45:51] Jess McAnally: And then I got tired because of it. Anyway, I changed my mind because I wanted to hear your closing arguments. So I did say I liked it. And what changed my mind was, I forget which one of you made the point, that it was supposed to be a comedy. And I didn't laugh out loud. I think it was Jess. It was Jess. He said it was supposed to be a comedy. So I was like, oh, I'm interested in it. I want to see where it goes. But I wasn't laughing. I didn't think it was very funny. And sexual assault, all of the stealth thing, all that acknowledged. I agree. Again, I want to change my answer, your honor, and I will enter a plea of respectable no spank you.

[46:31] Alan Seales: Oh my god, we all agree.

[46:32] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[46:33] Alan Seales: It's been a minute.

[46:34] Jess McAnally: It's been a minute since we all agreed.

[46:36] Alan Seales: I mean, there's a couple like, you know, all right events across the board for something that's kind of obvious. But you know, like you're in Loving Colors. Like you can't say that's bad. It's like a TV show.

[46:41] Jess McAnally: Yeah.

[46:46] Alan Seales: No, they got to try and fail. It's sketch comedy.

[46:49] Jess McAnally: Yeah. And I think the soundtrack is honestly really good to this movie. Like most of the Fairly Brothers early work.

[46:56] Alan Seales: Yeah, no, there's a lot of sick songs in this.

[46:58] Jess McAnally: The whole list is on Wikipedia, by the way, if you're curious. I don't know if it's on Spotify or any streaming sites. But you know, it's on Wikipedia if you're looking for what the songs are. They're mostly covered. There's eight Steely Dan covers on here from very famous bands.

[47:10] Alan Seales: That's so fucking wild.

[47:13] Jess McAnally: Well, I got to say, this is the first time I had seen the movie to watch it before.

[47:17] Alan Seales: Sorry, I just saw they did a cover of Do It Again and it was Smash Mouth.

[47:21] Jess McAnally: Yep. May they rest in peace.

[47:24] Alan Seales: Smash Mouth. Great song.

[47:26] Jess McAnally: No, this is the first time I had seen this movie and it will be the last if I can help it. I don't need to see it again.

[47:30] Alan Seales: I'd probably watch it again because it is kind of cozy.

[47:35] Jess McAnally: No.

[47:35] Alan Seales: But I won't like, I won't seek it out. But if it's like on, I'm not going to be like, can we please turn it off? I'll be like, oh, I'll pop in and out like and be interested in it.

[47:45] Jess McAnally: No, I'll just I'll just watch The Prince and Me on Max when I'm sad.

[47:49] Alan Seales: Should I bring up a cut deleted scene that I remember?

[47:53] Jess McAnally: Oh, featuring Lin Shay?

[47:54] Alan Seales: No, but I do.

[47:57] Jess McAnally: Lin Shay is great.

[47:58] Alan Seales: Yeah, she was cut from this movie.

[48:00] Jess McAnally: Yeah, she was. She is in Dumb and Dumberer though, for all the points that's worth.

[48:05] Alan Seales: She's funny in that. She was mostly cut, but I like her. But there will remember the scene where Jim Carrey was masturbating to...

[48:16] Jess McAnally: Like a mugshot.

[48:17] Alan Seales: Yeah, there was one more way too far moment where we see him do that. And you see him put a watermelon in the mic or in the oven. And then when Irene comes out, the watermelon rolls out from underneath the bed with a hole in it that's just penis sized. And I felt like I had to see that. And I had to make everyone else in this aware of that scene.

[48:41] Jess McAnally: I don't even want to play the clip here. I want to save them.

[48:43] Alan Seales: There's no clip to play. It's just like God.

[48:46] Jess McAnally: Oh, wait, there is a payoff where Hank calls him a watermelon fucker.

[48:50] Alan Seales: Wait, was that left in?

[48:51] Jess McAnally: Was that left in the movie?

[48:53] Alan Seales: No, but that was in the deleted scenes.

[48:55] Jess McAnally: OK, OK, OK.

[48:56] Alan Seales: OK, but it was left in the movie.

[48:58] Jess McAnally: It's a oversight.

[48:59] Alan Seales: I think this movie isn't great. This movie is a massive...

[49:03] Jess McAnally: Also, not to mention the narrator just fills in all the gaps. The script didn't fill in. Like there's a scene where the chief is explaining what happened in the end, and the narrator cuts in while the chief is talking.

[49:11] Alan Seales: Yeah, I was like, I thought that something was wrong with the movie for a second.

[49:17] Jess McAnally: No, no, the narration just kicked in.

[49:19] Alan Seales: Why is the voice out of sync with the actor now?

[49:22] Jess McAnally: Because it was the narrator.

[49:23] Alan Seales: Yeah, yeah. Well, I figured that I was like, this is a children's book. Like, what the fuck? It's narrating it like a cartoon.

[49:30] Jess McAnally: And the guy sounds like Foghorn Leghorn.

[49:33] Alan Seales: He does sound like Foghorn Leghorn.

[49:35] Jess McAnally: I do want to say.

[49:36] Alan Seales: I say, I say.

[49:37] Jess McAnally: The effect when Jim Carrey's thumb gets blown off is pretty fun in like a gore kind of way.

[49:44] Alan Seales: How's my thumb? I'll tell you when I find it.

[49:46] Jess McAnally: As I will say, if anyone proposes to me with a plane that says, will you marry me, bitch? I will kick them in the balls.

[49:53] Alan Seales: Wait, wait, wait, wait. So why at the end did they break the fourth wall? I don't get that.

[49:57] Jess McAnally: I don't know.

[49:58] Alan Seales: Why did they?

[50:00] Jess McAnally: Why did they say thanks for watching our movie?

[50:04] Alan Seales: Because they were the best part of the movie and they were in their own separate movies.

[50:07] Jess McAnally: So they were just thanking them for watching their scenes.

[50:09] Alan Seales: Can I guess? Some good news.

[50:12] Jess McAnally: What?

[50:12] Alan Seales: Is there a spinoff with the three sons?

[50:14] Jess McAnally: No, the Pan and Span version of me, myself and Irene is uploaded in entire to YouTube.

[50:20] Alan Seales: No!

[50:21] Jess McAnally: I was just kind of looking up the ending and it's like in 12 parts. I'm like, yep, that's the Pan and Span version of the movie.

[50:27] Alan Seales: Wow.

[50:29] Jess McAnally: On that note, thank you all for listening to Carried Away. And you know where to find us. We'll be back next time. Same bat time, same bat channel.

[50:39] Alan Seales: Buh-bye.

[50:39] Jess McAnally: Buh-bye!

[50:40] Alan Seales: Buh-bye!

[50:54] Jess McAnally: Buh-bye!