Why do talented actors sometimes walk into auditions and completely disconnect from themselves? In this episode, casting director and acting teacher Jeffrey Dreisbach explores one of the biggest hidden audition killers: overthinking... Read More
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Why do talented actors sometimes walk into auditions and completely disconnect from themselves?
In this episode, casting director and acting teacher Jeffrey Dreisbach explores one of the biggest hidden audition killers: overthinking. From self-monitoring and approval-seeking to trying too hard to “be good,” this episode breaks down the subtle habits that quietly sabotage actors before the scene even begins.
Practical, funny, and brutally honest, this episode helps actors reconnect to behavior, simplicity, and truthful work.
What if the biggest thing hurting your auditions… isn’t your acting?
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What if the biggest thing hurting your
auditions
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isn't your acting.
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What if it's your thinking?
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Today we're discussing how actors
quietly sabotage themselves before the
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audition even begins.
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And trust me, this happens consistently.
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This is casting actor's cast.
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Well, hello, and welcome to casting
actor's Cass.
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I'm Jeff drives back.
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And today we're discussing one of the
biggest hidden audition problems that
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actors face
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overthinking.
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Now, actors hate hearing this because
many actors secretly believe
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overthinking means they're being,
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I don't know, serious professionals?
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No,
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sometimes it just means your brain is
doing interpretative dance while your
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instincts are trapped in the trunk of
the car.
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And honestly,
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actors can overthink themselves
directly out of truthful work.
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We're going to jump into all of that.
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But first, this is that moment of the
conversation where I get to just simply
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thank you for joining me.
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I invite you to check out the webside
cassing actors cast dot com.
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There's a form there.
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This is dive into the talent pool.
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And if you do that that's going to open
up some freebies.
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It's a website that has information
about my new book.
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That's out.
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My audio book there's all kinds of,
though there's jeff's jots, by the way.
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And that's corresponding show notes to
each of the episodes so that you can
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literally have a copy of the bulleted
script that I use to do these podcasts.
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I find that to be.
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A lot of folks have told me that this
seems to be really, really helpful for
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them, especially if something strikes
the right kind of nerve in terms of information
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and listen.
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The only reason I'm doing these
podcasts is a sincere
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desire to help actors feel more
comfortable and more confident in the
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world of acting that's, it, it's the
show business thing, but it's also
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the internal work that actors can do to
make themselves feel more alive,
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more appreciated.
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And guess what?
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Book more that's kind of it, right?
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Wouldn't you like to book more?
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Listen, stay tuned.
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That's why I'm here.
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Also, please do check out that website.
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But also
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there's the course that's available
there.
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Mean, there's just all kinds of stuff
there as well.
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Also, you can leave me an email,
casting actors cast a Gmail, dot com
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and if you want to just
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write me a question or a comment, that
would be awesome.
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Finally, if you could think about
giving me a like and a subscribe,
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that would help me so much.
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That's what keeps me motivated to do
this work.
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And I would appreciate any
consideration along those lines.
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Maybe even, I don't know, a review
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on iTunes perhaps.
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All right, I'm not going to start
begging now, although I really, really
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want to.
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All right, now let's jump back into
this subject.
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We're going to call this
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approval trap
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one of the biggest mindset problems
actors face, in my opinion, is this.
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Having done a lot of auditions lately,
I can tell you this firsthand,
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they walk into auditions wanting
approval
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instead of connection.
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That subtle difference absolutely
changes everything.
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Approval energy
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sounds like,
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oh, please like me.
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Please think I'm talented.
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Please tell me I belong here.
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And when actors need approval,
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guess what happens?
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They become careful.
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Careful acting
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is usually dead.
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Acting.
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Suddenly,
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actors begin,
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oh, the first thing.
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They start monitoring themselves.
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They start editing their impulses,
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they start presenting
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emotion,
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trying to look
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good.
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And the performance
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itself starts feeling
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quite manufactured.
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Here's a real casting truth.
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The actors who often feel most alive in
auditions
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are usually the least concerned with
appearing, impressive.
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They are engaged,
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present, connected, specific,
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while the actor desperately trying to
prove themselves
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often feels tense
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and tension reads
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immediately on camera.
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Now next, I just have to share this,
what I call the self monitoring
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disaster.
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Actors sometimes perform while
simultaneously
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watching themselves internally.
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It's like acting while also being your
own nervous stage manager.
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Things that you say to yourself while
you're doing the scene are like,
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did that sound emotional?
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Was that believable?
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Should I pause more?
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Do I look weird?
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Meanwhile, the scene has emotionally
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left the building.
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I've said this in a recent episode.
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I just honestly think it bears
repeating.
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And that is, if you've ever had a
teacher of whether or a director,
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who ever said to you, after a scene,
whether it's a scene study, or whether
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it's an actual scene that you're doing,
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after they give you a note,
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do they ever say to you, oh, how did
that feel?
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You know, I think I've heard that
almost all my life as an actor.
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How did that feel?
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Not realizing that when that question
gets asked, what is happening?
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What is happening is that it is
reinforcing
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you, watching yourself,
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in other words, while you're doing the
scene, trying to incorporate the note
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the director has given you,
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you are now monitoring yourself.
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And then when you hear, how did that
feel?
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You go back into your catalogue of
emotional experiences and expressions
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and self doubt thoughts.
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And oftentimes you say, oh, that was
great.
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It is.
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Sometimes the need for approval from
the director
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supersedes
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you
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doing the scene.
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Gosh, I hope that makes sense, right?
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So, listen, I don't want you to ever be
rude,
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not in an audition or when you get an
adjustment from a director,
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because
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they're just trying to help reinforce
those things that are working.
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So I get the motivation.
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But subliminally, ooh, good word.
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I think
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that that is kind of
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telling you to
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be really skilled
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at taking your own temperature,
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so that you can give yourself a thumbs
up or thumbs down.
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And the truth of the matter is that
truthful acting,
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well that requires involvement,
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not surveillance.
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And honestly,
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most human beings are not monitoring
themselves constantly during emotional moments,
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they are trying to
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survive them.
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All right.
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Moving on from there.
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A lot of actors unknowingly bring
school energy into professional auditions.
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Now, you can be of any age.
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So I'm not pointing out any particular
group, right?
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But I see it happening very, very
frequently,
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that actors audition, like their
nervous students, waiting for grades.
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But the professional world does not
work that way.
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Right?
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Casting is not searching for the best
cry,
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the most dramatic pause, the loudest
emotional explosion.
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They are usually searching for truth.
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Are you a good fit for the character?
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Looking for humanity?
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Specificity
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the biggest in my mind, behavior.
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Sometimes the actor who books isn't the
most emotionally theatrical.
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They're simply the most believable.
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And let me tell you, that can
frustrate.
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Actors who were trained to equate
intensity
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with quality.
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Yeah, we're going to have more what's
coming up.
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I have to talk about this over
preparation.
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And we're going to do that right after
this message.
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Welcome back.
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Now let's discuss.
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Another dangerous actor habit that I
see that sabotages so many auditions.
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And that's what I call overbuilding.
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Let me explain.
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Some actors prepare for auditions, like
there, writing a doctorial dissertation
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about sadness.
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Meanwhile, the audition is just three
pages.
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Actors will sometimes create fourteen
page back stories,
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symbolic childhood, trauma maps,
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emotional weather systems,
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color coded, psychological journals.
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I've seen that
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now listen.
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Preparation absolutely matters.
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But preparation
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should support
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spontaneity,
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not suffocated.
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When actors become too locked into
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the plan,
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they stop listening.
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And once listening disappears,
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so does truthful behavior.
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Now there's a fear that we have to talk
about.
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And this is absolutely another problem.
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Actors often think simple
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means weak.
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That is categorically
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not true.
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Simple, truthful behavior is usually
much harder
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than emotional decoration.
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Why?
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Because simplicity,
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we choirs confidence.
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It requires
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trusting your presence,
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your listening,
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your instincts,
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the writing.
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Some actors are terrified that if they
stop performing, nothing interesting
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will happen
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with all due respect.
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I see this happening so often
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with well trained, musical theater
actors trying to do straight acting.
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But guess what?
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Often the opposite occurs.
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The work
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suddenly becomes human.
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When you remove
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the energy of performance,
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the work suddenly comes alive.
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I know it's going to take some time to
really let that absorb, but I promise
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you, that's golden,
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I just made you a lot of money right
now,
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right.
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This, move on.
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I always try to give out an exercise to
you in the hope that you try these exercises,
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just to sort of reinforce the concepts
of each of these podcasts.
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Here's the quick
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episode, here's the quick exercise for
this week.
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I want you to take any self tape that
you've done recently.
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Now I want you to watch it again.
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Preferably, something not so recent,
something that's not still in your, the
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four frontal corquex of your brain,
something that you did a while ago,
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that you may be kind of forgot about a
little bit.
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But that's the one I want you to take a
look at now.
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Listen.
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I want you to watch it with the sound
off.
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Yeah,
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turn off the sound.
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Now ask,
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am I behaving
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or demonstrating?
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I promise you that question alone can
completely change your work if you see
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a clear answer.
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Amazing.
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Right?
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Wrapping this up a little bit, actors
often sabotage themselves, not because
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they lack talent, but because they are
trying too hard to control the outcome.
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Truthful acting usually requires
involvement,
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not perfection.
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And
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the moment actors stop auditioning for
approval.
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Their work often becomes far more
compelling.
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Thank you so much for joining me.
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I'm Jeff drives back.
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This is casting actors cast here's it
here's the deal here's it here's the
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deal.
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Keep learning.
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Keep listening
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and maybe stop emotionally supervising
yourself like an anxious substitute teacher.
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Your instincts are smarter than you
think.
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