Today we are talking about something that quietly sabotages more auditions than lack of talent, lack of training, or lack of experience combined.
Overthinking.
Yes. The invisible career killer.


Today we are talking about something that quietly sabotages more auditions than lack of talent, lack of training, or lack of experience combined. Overthinking. Yes. The invisible career killer... Read More
Today we are talking about something that quietly sabotages more auditions than lack of talent, lack of training, or lack of experience combined.
Overthinking.
Yes. The invisible career killer.
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Hello my fellow actors.
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Welcome back to casting actor's caste,
the podcast for actors from a casting
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director.
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I'm Jeffrey Dreisbach.
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And today we're talking about something
that quietly sabotages more auditions
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than lack of talent, lack of training
or lack of experience, combined
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overthinking.
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Yes, the invisible
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career killer
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today's episode is
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called the overthinking
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All coming up right now
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on
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casting actor's castle.
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Well, hello, and welcome to today's
episode of casting actors cast.
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I'm Jeff Dreisbach a casting
partner with mccorkl casting in New
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York.
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Nice to see you.
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This is called the overthinking trap.
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And before we get into it, I just
wanted to say thank you for tuning in.
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Please check out the website, casting
actor's cast, all one word dot com.
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You can find some free bees and some
information called jeff's jots, which
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are corresponding show notes.
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My book is out, my course is available.
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It's all at casting actors cast.
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Just fill out the form that says, dive
into the talonpool.
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And if you like what you hear to day,
please consider leaving me alike a
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share.
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A review would be phenomenal.
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I would really appreciate that.
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All right, let's jump into the subject.
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Shall we let me first start by
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sharing with you
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a truth
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that, ah,
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you know what this might, sting a
little.
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Most actors
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who don't book are not under prepared.
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That's right?
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They're over prepared.
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Now, before anyone panics, I am not
suggesting you.
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Stop preparing.
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Preparation is essential.
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Preparation is your foundation.
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Preparation is your safety net.
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But overthinking.
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Overthinking is fear, dressed up as
discipline.
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And casting
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casting can see it instantly.
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There is a specific energy
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that walks into an audition room when
an actor is overthinking.
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It feels tight, it feels cautious.
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It feels like some one trying not to
make a mistake,
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instead of some one trying to tell a
story.
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And, you know, story telling is what
books jobs.
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You do know that,
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not perfection,
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not caution,
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not calculation.
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Often for young people, I say this,
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guess what?
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School is over?
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Your audition is not for a grade.
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Here's what overthinking
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actually looks like from the casting
table.
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A right picture, this.
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The actor comes in,
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they're polite, they're prepared,
they're focused.
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They start the scene.
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But instead of watching a human being
experiencing something in real time we
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watch someone carefully executing
choices.
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They rehearsed at home.
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Every beat
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feels placed, every pause, feels
measured, every reaction,
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feels decided in advance,
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technically
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correct,
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disconnected.
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But real moments are not
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Real moments unfold.
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Real moments surprise even the person
experiencing them.
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The best auditions I ever see
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are the ones in which the actors
actually surprised
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in real time by their own choices.
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You see, when an actor overthinks,
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they replace discovery
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with control.
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And control is the enemy of truth.
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Ay?
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Somebody right that doubt?
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is the enemy of truth.
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Let's talk about why actors overthink
in the first place.
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It's not because they're insecure.
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It's not because they're inexperienced.
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And it's definitely not because they
lack talent.
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Actors overthink because they care.
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They want to get it right, they want to
impress, they want to be chosen.
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So
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they plan every
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inflection,
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every pause, every movement, every
emotional shift.
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But guess what?
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Here's the problem?
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The more you plan,
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the less you listen.
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And listening is where acting lives.
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Acting does not live in your
preparation.
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It lives in your response.
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If you are busy remembering what you
decided to do.
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You cannot respond to what is actually
happening.
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See, casting doesn't hire actors who
demonstrate
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decisions.
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We hire actors who experience
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the moments.
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There is a massive difference between
those two things.
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And let me tell you something.
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Casting directors say all the time,
after their auditions.
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They say,
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after you've left the room, you've
auditions, you've left the room,
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whether it be on zoom or whether it be
live, the casting director says
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that one felt alive.
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They almost never say
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that one was technically precise,
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active
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alive,
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that books,
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precise auditions
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do not.
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So how do you stop over thinking?
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You don't stop preparing.
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You change what preparation means?
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Most actors think preparation means
deciding how they will perform
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professional actors.
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No, preparation means understanding
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what is happening
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so they can simply let it happen.
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Preparation
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should give you freedom, not rigidity.
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Now, here is a simple shift that
changes everything.
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Instead of asking, how should I say
this line?
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Ask,
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why am I saying this line?
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One question leads to performance.
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The other
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leads to behavior.
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And behavior
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is always more interesting to watch.
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That's absolutely true.
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And when actors overthink they perform
results.
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When actors trust, they play emotions.
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Casting always chooses action.
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So here's a practical example.
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Let's say the line is,
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I didn't expect to see you here.
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All right, that's the line.
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Now, listen.
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An overthinking actor decides the tone,
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the meaning, the intention, the back
story, the emotional color, the tempo,
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the facial expression
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and physical stance,
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even how they're going to stand before
they actually walk into the audition room.
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A present actor decides only one thing,
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what they want
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from the other person.
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That's it.
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Because if you know what you want,
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your body, your voice, your timing and
recognition,
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will organize themselves.
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Naturally.
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Want organizes
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behavior.
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Planning
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organizes presentation.
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Behavior feels real.
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Presentation feels acted.
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Casting hires real.
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Another truth from the audition room,
the actors who book most often are not
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the actors who make the most
interesting choices.
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They are the actors who make the
cleanest
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clearest
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choices.
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You see, clarity is absolutely
watchable.
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Confusion is tiring.
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often leads actors to,
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I don't know, pile on layers.
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They add complexity,
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nuance,
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invention,
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cleverness
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all kinds of stuff.
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But casting is not looking for
complexity.
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Casting is looking for truth.
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Truth is simple.
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Truth is direct.
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Truth is grounded.
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Truth is specific.
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The moment an actor starts trying to be
interesting, they stop being
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believable.
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Believability is your currency,
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not originality.
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Originality is a byproduct of truth.
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Now here's something I want you to
remember for the rest of your career.
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You cannot indicate
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and experience
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at the same time.
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If you are showing emotion,
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you are not feeling emotion.
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If you are demonstrating behavior,
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you are not living behavior.
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The camera knows the difference always.
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Now let's talk about one of the biggest
overthinking traps actors fall into.
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And we're going to do that right after
this message.
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So what is one of the biggest
overthinking traps?
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Actors fall into?
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The fear of silence.
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Many actors rush
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because silence
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feels dangerous.
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But silence is where life happens.
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Silence
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is processing.
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Silence is listening.
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Silence is truth.
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When you rush to your next line because
you planned the timing at home,
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you eliminate the possibility of
discovery.
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Discovery
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is magnetic to watch.
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Planned timing is predictable.
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Predictable is forgettable.
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Memorable actors allow moments to land
on them before responding.
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They receive
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before they send.
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That is presence.
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Here's a test you can try at your next
rehearsal.
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Do the scene exactly as planned,
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then do it again and allow yourself to
be surprised
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nine times out of ten.
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The surprise version,
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the one
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that you don't think about,
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that feels alive.
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Why?
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Because you're not reciting any more,
you're reacting.
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Casting is not watching to see you
remember your choices.
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We're watching to see if you can forget
them
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forgetting.
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Preparation
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is the final step
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of preparation.
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Ok, that was really good too.
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So let's just think about athletes.
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They, well, you know this, you're
watching the Olympics.
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They train relentlessly
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so that in the game
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they don't think they trust
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actors, must do the same thing.
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Preparation is rehearsal.
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Audition is play.
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If you bring rehearsal energy into the
audition,
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it feels practiced.
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If you bring play energy into the
audition,
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it feels real.
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Now, let me just take a moment and
share this with you.
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I often tell actors to
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say to themselves, an audition is not
an event.
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I think that's really, really healthy.
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I also sometimes go on to say, if you
could treat the audition like it's the
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first day of rehearsal.
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Then you're in a different energy,
you're in a different frame of mind
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because you're collaborating,
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you're looking forward to working with
others.
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You have a different mindset when you
know you've already booked the job.
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That is not what I'm saying here.
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Because if you bring that sense of play
into the rehearsal room,
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then that energy,
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that energy in that audition, it feels
real.
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I think that playfulness is one of the
most bookable qualities an actor can
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have, not
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comedy
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playfulness,
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the willingness to explore,
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to adopt, to shift, to respond to be
affected.
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Playfulness tells casting.
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You are directible.
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Directible actors get hired.
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Rigid actors.
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They get remembered,
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but not rehired.
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Here is the sentence.
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Casting.
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Directors love to say
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they were great to work with.
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I say that all the time.
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I get calls all the time from directors
or producers that are interested in an
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actor.
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And if I know the answer, I'm going to
tell them, this actor is so great to
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work with, you're going to love him.
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Now notice
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that sentence has nothing to do with
performance quality, right?
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It has everything to do with experience
quality.
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If working with you feels easy,
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collaborative, alive and flexible.
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You become valuable
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value.
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Books work.
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Now let's talk about how to practice
owning the moment.
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Starting to day,
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when you rehearse, stop
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locking choices.
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Instead,
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lock intentions.
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Your intention
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is your anger.
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Your delivery
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is your sale.
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Sales move with the wind.
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Anchors stay grounded.
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If your intention is clear, your
performance can change every time and
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still be truthful.
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That
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is what directors want.
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They don't want a finished product.
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They want a responsive instrument.
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You are the instrument.
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The scene is the music.
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Your partner is the conductor.
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Ok.
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How about that for a metaphor?
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If you are too busy remembering
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how you planned to play the note you
missed the cue,
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missing q's is what overthinking does.
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Owning the moment
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is what presence does.
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So let me give you a phrase.
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I would love, love, love, love, love,
love, love, love, love, love, love,
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love for you to adopt immediately.
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Replace don't mess up.
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Dev, you said that to yourself, don't
mess up.
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Replace that phrase.
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Don't mess up with,
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let it happen.
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Three words,
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let it
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happen.
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Those words shift your nervous system
from control
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to trust.
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And trust reads on camera as confidence
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confidence is calming to watch.
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Anxious control is uncomfortable to
watch.
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Casting always chooses the actor who
feels safe
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to watch.
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Not safe, as in boring, safe as in
grounded.
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Because grounded actors
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that moments land pushing is effort.
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Landing is truth.
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Here is your action step for this week.
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I want you to pick one audition,
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whether it's a rehearsal or it's a self
tape.
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And I want you to give yourself one rule
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here.
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It is
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no planned line readings.
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Know your objective,
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no, your circumstances.
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Know your relationship.
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But do not plan how lines sound.
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Let your partner determine that
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you may feel terrified the first time
you try this that's pretty normal,
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because you're giving up control.
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But here's the secret.
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Casting does not want control.
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Casting wants life
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is messy.
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Life is uneven, life is surprising.
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Life is human.
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Before we close, I want to leave you
with this.
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Overthinking is not a disciplined
problem.
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It's a trust problem.
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Trust your preparation,
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trust your instincts, trust your
listening.
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Trust that you are enough
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without the
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decorating the moment.
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I see that all the time.
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Because guess what?
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Because actors
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who work consistently
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are not the ones who control the scene
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they're the ones who live inside it.
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Come on.
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Now that's another gem.
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If you listened to this episode very
deeply and you got it, then you are
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well on your way to feeling more
confident and more successful.
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And if this episode helped you, please
do yourself and me a favor
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shared with an actor who tends to live
in their head instead of the moment.
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And if you want more insider guidance,
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practical tools and real worldcasting
perspective,
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be sure to follow casting actors, cast
and visit.
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Casting actor's cast dot com, where we
help you prepare smarter, perform
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better and book more.
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I'm Jeffrey Dreisbach.
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Thanks for listening.
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Now
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I want you to go out there and do your
best,
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live truthfully.
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