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[0:00] Jason A. Coombs: Welcome everybody to the first ever Pod Fest here at the Museum of Broadway. My name is Jason A. Coombs. This is my beautiful co-host, Samantha Dawn Titzelow, and we're the hosts of Survival Jobs, a podcast on Broadway World and Broadway Podcast Network. So we're super excited to be here and have this amazing, amazing panel. So today we're chatting with Jon Jon and Isa Briones.

[0:22] Samantha Tuozzolo: Hi, sound check. Does it work? Is it good? Amazing. Hi. I know we were just chatting so much in our VIP green room. We love the Museum of Broadway shout out. We obviously loved Hadestown. We're going to talk so much about Hadestown, but our show is called Survival Jobs. Jason and I built this show because we did a lot of survival jobs together and we were like, let's talk about this. So Jon Jon, can you start and tell us if you had a survival job along your journey before you were literally an iconic performer killing it in so many roles? That's maybe like a memorable one, a crazy story that happened to you.

[1:06] Jon Jon Briones: You know, I've been lucky in that I didn't get to do a lot of jobs that are not in the arts. But when I was in the Philippines, I was an engineering student. I studied engineering. Okay. Hello, full circle. To later become the engineer in Miss Saigon. But I love theater. So I would do everything in my power to be with actors, be in a show. If I can't be in a show, I would say to my friend who's a producer, can I be anything? And then he would put me as a wardrobe person or a props person or anything that will bring me to theater, to be around actors. But when I was in New York, during hard times, I pretended to be a bartender and I would apply for a job and they would see through me because I'm not a good actor. Yeah, they didn't, nobody would hire me. I'm like, you're a bartender? All right, thanks. Well, you'll hear from us. Well, wait, but you also waited some tables and you said you were a pretty bad waiter.

[2:38] Jon Jon Briones: Yes, I did on Upper East Side. And my wife would tell you, sometimes I would come home crying because I was a bad waiter. I was so upset that I was bad. And my wife said, well, it's a good thing you're a bad waiter and not a bad actor. I'm sorry. You're forgetting so many things. You used to be a massage therapist.

[3:11] Jon Jon Briones: That's right. Why are you forgetting most of my life? You were doing these jobs and you're forgetting. You have to sometimes block out the survival jobs, you know, so I get it. I really love being a massage therapist. I trained in Chelsea. I'm not going to advertise, but yeah, I became a massage therapist that kind of, you know, see-sawed us through some, sometimes some hard times, but, and then I injured myself. It's like somebody saying, you know what? Just stay, stay in your lane, stay in your lane, be an actor. Anything else? I don't know. But that was, I remember that very clearly. Cause that was like when we were living in LA, it was like 2008, heavy recession time. Mom was a real estate agent, unfortunately during that time.

And my dad was a massage therapist. And I remember it was just like a wild time of you guys still trying to audition, trying to do that, but also keep our family afloat and having two young kids and seeing that struggle. But you guys still made time for the arts. We still, when we first moved to LA, the first job that my parents did was Ragtime at a 99 seat theater in LA, dad played Tate and my mom played Mother. And they were doing that all the while doing their survival jobs. I would be outside in the cafe, outside of the theater, doing my homework and hearing you guys sing every night. And that, so we didn't really give them a chance. We surrounded them with creative people, with struggling actors and, yeah, but they loved it. It's a cooler lifestyle, right?

[5:05] Samantha Tuozzolo: Oh yeah. I was going to ask you, Isa, you're very young, so I'm not sure. I was trying to do a little bit of research. Did you ever have a survival job before you started booking some gigs?

[5:15] Isa Briones: Okay, please. Yeah, no. So when my dad came to New York for the revival of Miss Saigon for the Broadway revival, I was, I think I had just turned 18. I had finished high school. I did independent study so I could get out of high school a little earlier and start auditioning. And I started doing like local theater in LA. And when he moved to New York, I decided, you know, I'll take this opportunity while my dad is there to move there, see how it feels, start auditioning. But then also I need to support myself because, you know, he was making money on Broadway, but he wasn't making money to like support a full ass human needing to pay for herself. So I started being a hostess at Balthazar in Soho.

[6:14] Isa Briones: Delicious. But when you work there, you go, Oh no, you'd never work at the place that you love. But no, that was an interesting time. I worked there for about a year. And I was auditioning for Hamilton, Dear Evan Hansen, all these, like, those were the two ones that I was just like constantly going in for almost like every other week while hostessing. And that I would, I really resented that that place stayed open till like 2 AM every night. And I get that like as a patron, that's awesome. Cause you're like, where, where is open? Oh my God, Balthazar is open. And so like, as a person trying to go somewhere for a nightcap, wonderful as a person working there, terrible.

[7:06] Jon Jon Briones: Wait, the manager kept the host on until 2 AM. I managed a restaurant and he would cut the host first, got to cut the hours.

[7:12] Isa Briones: No, they really, I, sometimes I'd be able to be cut around like 1 AM, but I remember one time I had food poisoning. I started realizing I had food poisoning or no, not food poisoning. This, that was another time. My first year in New York was rough. But I, no, I had, I had the stomach flu. I started feeling like terrible. I was at the podium, like hunched over. My stomach was like, felt like it was caving in. I was like, Oh my God, what is happening? And I went to my major D. I was like, can I please like, I am unwell. I have to go home. He was like, you are here until 1 AM. I was like, okay. And so I'm at the podium, hunched over, people are coming in and these like beautiful gowns and suits.

They clearly came from some big gala. And I'm like, hello, table 20. But, and that was, I had the flu and the stomach flu within a span of about three weeks. And I was going in for my final callbacks for Hamilton through that time. And I also had bed bugs and yeah, no, they were like, we really, for Mariah, we need someone who has been through hell and I come in with bites all over me throwing up. I'm like, yeah, baby, give me the job. But yeah, that's, that's, that's my journey.

[8:41] Jason A. Coombs: Well, listen, all of your survival jobs have paid off, right? Like you said, we'll talk about Hamilton a little bit later, but I know that was rough. That was, I was like, Oh, this is one of those. That's that story. You always hear like the first year in New York is always just going to kick you to the curb, knocking on wood for bed bugs staying far away from me. So we, we went through the survival jobs. We were massaging, we were hosting and puking and it all paid off. Now, now you guys are in Hadestown starring. I can't tell everybody enough to go run and see them. They are groundbreaking. It is so iconic. I had never seen Hadestown and now I can't wait to go back and back and back and back and back. So can you talk a little bit about how this project came to be and was being on stage together something you guys always wanted to do?

[9:30] Jon Jon Briones: Well, I got a phone call from my agent saying, Hey, there is a, an offer for you. And if you want it and also by the way, they offered it to Isa as well. So you're going to be in the same show together. So as soon as I heard that, I went, yes, as soon as they, she, he said that he's going to be in it. I'm like, yes, I'm going to do it because I, you know, it's so special. I got emotional right away. But also, not to mention the doubts because two iconic performers have done it or, and weren't doing it. So I was like, what am I going to do with this?

[10:18] Isa Briones: You're also an iconic performer. I just would like to let you know.

[10:25] Jon Jon Briones: But yeah, that was, that day was so special and we FaceTime together.

[10:33] Isa Briones: Well, okay. I would like to give some backstory again. No, I'm not correcting you. It's just that here's my side of the story is I, we had the same agent at the time and they called me to tell me, and it was very out of the blue. I did not see that coming. I started freaking out. Also that year is we found out December, 2023, all of 2023, of course, cause you don't clearly don't remember anything. So I gotta, but, but all of 2023, I had become reobsessed randomly with Hadestown. I had seen it back in 2019 and I loved it then, but then it just kind of randomly popped up in my head again that year. And I started listening to it every day, singing flowers every day, just becoming so obsessed with it and being like, man, I really want to do this.

Like so much that I, my best friend and I went on a road trip and I to Vegas. And I was like, I'm so sorry, but for this entire drive, I'm going to play the Hadestown soundtrack and explain what's going on the entire time. And then a few months later I found out about this. And so I'm so excited and they're like, and your dad's going to be Hermes. And I'm like, Oh my God, I can't wait to call him. They're like, we haven't called him yet. We called you first. So you have to wait until we call him.

[12:02] Isa Briones: Yeah, I did. How does it feel? But I was like, Oh my God. Okay. Sounds great. Call him and let me know as soon as, well, he'll probably call me as soon as he finds out. And so they got, they get off the phone. I'm there waiting. I'm in the bedroom. I go out to the living room to tell my boyfriend he's on a work call, so he can't talk right now. And so I'm like, Oh, okay. Let me move on to someone else then. And I'm like just dying, trying to tell someone. And I text my mom cause like 30 minutes has passed. And I'm like, they have to know by now. I text my mom. I'm like, Hey, what's up? Just trying to see if anything new going on. And she's like, what? Like, what are you talking about? I'm like, never, nothing.

Nevermind. And then like 10 more minutes pass. And then I send the like eyes emoji and she's still not answering me. And I'm like, this is killing me. But then finally, they call me and they're like, yeah, we, we got the news. What? And I'm like, okay. Are you not as excited as I am? Well, you were like, why were you calling? And I'm like, do it because of the thing. And you were like, Oh, I thought you were like dying or something. And I was like, no, this is, I, yes, I am dying. This is so exciting. But yes, that's my version of the story is me for an hour, freaking out, just waiting.

[12:07] Jon Jon Briones: You got the call first. Okay.

[13:28] Jon Jon Briones: Yeah. That journey started in the rehearsal room when we were rehearsing the show. And I was watching her and I would miss my cues because I'm watching her and the director.

[13:59] Jon Jon Briones: Pay attention or sometimes I'm crying because I was emotional the whole time. I was a mess. I can't believe how together she put together, she is, and how brilliant she is and her choices. Oh my god, is that really my child? In a way, I go, okay, I'm proud because she came from us. I'm sure we passed down things to her. That first show, I had to control myself. My wife asked me in the morning, "How do you feel today?" I said, "You know, I feel very calm." She was like, "Oh, that's good." I said, "Yes, I think because if I'm not calm today, it's not going to be a good thing because I want our daughter to see me as calm as possible. I've always been that way, and to see me rattled would not be a good thing for both of us."

So yeah, I was calm, but watching her, you know, when you're watching something and you don't know what your face is doing, I was that during the show. I was like, "I feel like that right now," kind of. But man, I'm so proud of this young creature.

[15:38] Isa Briones: You both of your performances, we were crying next to each other like, "How do we talk to them on Sunday? They're so iconic." I was like, "Oh my god, what are we gonna say? How are we gonna do this and not be like fanning the whole time?" But I think we're doing okay.

[16:03] Jon Jon Briones: Yeah, we're holding it together. Isa, you grew up, you said before you were doing your homework and your parents were singing and rehearsing. So specifically, how did your dad inform you wanting to be an artist and an actor? Do you remember the first moment when you were like, "I have to do this"?

[16:19] Isa Briones: Yeah, I think from an early age, because I grew up around it. I mean, when I was younger, when I was a baby, my parents were on tour. My dad was doing Miss Saigon on tour, and I always was growing up in backstage dressing rooms. My earliest memories are trick-or-treating to all the dressing rooms. So I grew up around it. I don't remember this, but my parents have told me that when we moved to LA when I was nine and they were auditioning, I asked them, "When am I going to start to audition?" They were kind of like, "Okay, she broached it herself. It's not like we're pushing this on her, so I guess if she wants to, she can start." I started auditioning, and that was a complicated time because we were auditioning for film and TV, and it was around 2009 when that was happening.

Things were changing, but there still weren't a lot of interracial couples on TV. When you're that age, you always have to fit into a family; you always have to match the parents. I wasn't necessarily booking much because I was either going in for the fully Chinese family or the blonde blue-eyed family, and I just didn't fit into either. That was a hard time where I knew I wanted to do it, but it just wasn't quite working. I also had seen my parents go through times like these, so I knew that was part of it. I started to go to arts schools; I went to an arts middle school and high school, so I was still around it. But at a certain point, I started to question, "Is this something I actually want to do, or is it just that I was around it?"

You know, you're a teenager, and you're questioning everything in your life. I started to be like, "Maybe I should take a break and see if this is actually what I want to do." When I was 15, that's when my dad booked the revival in the West End of Miss Saigon, and we started having a little more money to see theater again. We didn't have to shop at the 99 cent store.

[18:41] Jon Jon Briones: Yeah, we were always shopping at the 99 cent store before.

[18:47] Isa Briones: Oh yeah, no shout out. $1.25 now, right?

[18:50] Jon Jon Briones: Yes, unfortunately, yeah. Five below. But we were able to see theater again, and we were seeing it all the time. Of course, I saw my dad on stage, but then I remember specifically one of the shows was I got to see In the Heights. I think it was at the King's Cross Theatre, and it's very immersive. I just remember the moment of looking at the fireworks, and they had string lights on the top that were all twinkling during that moment. Everyone was looking up, and it was just so visceral. I just remember sobbing; I couldn't breathe. I felt so overcome by it, and it was that moment of being like, "Oh my god, this is what theater does to a person." Watching them up there, I was like, "Oh my god, I have to be on that stage or I'm gonna die."

It was so dramatic, but that feeling of, "Oh no, I have to do this with my life," and I think that's when it clicked. I had my moment to doubt it and really see if it was real, and being surrounded by theater again made it very real for me again.

[20:19] Jon Jon Briones: I love that the moment was In the Heights.

[20:22] Isa Briones: Yeah, just saying that little clip, and I got chills because how iconic. Shout out to In the Heights. Thank you for sharing that.

[20:31] Jon Jon Briones: Thank you. Beautiful. So Jon Jon, you've done so much over the course of your career. What is it about Hadestown that really drew you in, and what do you hope or what do you think audiences get out of it? It's been around for five years; not a lot of Broadway shows can last for five years.

[20:40] Jon Jon Briones: I first saw it in 2019 with the original cast, and they were brilliant. But I never really thought about, "Oh, that's something I can do." But when it was offered to me, I said yes because Isa is going to be in it. Then I started thinking about it and went, "What can I do with this role that can at least match what the great André and Lillias have done?" The more I thought about it, the more it became clear that this is fiction; this is Greek mythology. It's happening in New Orleans in the setting of Hadestown, and I was like, "I think I can do whatever I want with this." Then Rachel sent me a text and said, "We are going to make sure that you, Jon Jon, will come out of this not something that's been done before." That was the key to me, and the more I delve into the piece, the more I realized, "Oh my god, I want to do this. I can't wait to start doing this. I can't wait to put a step on stage and do my thing."

[22:14] Jon Jon Briones: And the more literally, yeah. When we were rehearsing, our resident director was encouraging me to bring myself to it, my Filipino-ness as well. That's what I've been doing in a lot of the TV shows and movies that I've done. Before, I was avoiding it; I was trying to sound American, which is really silly now. I've lost a couple of opportunities because somebody said, "You need to lose your accent, and you need to sound American." I was like, "What is American? What does an American sound like?" When I got my notoriety doing things, I just get offered roles. I was still trying to hide my accent, but people reacted, "Oh my god, it's so good to hear a Filipino accent on TV." I can't escape it; I am Filipino.

When I get emotional, it comes out, and I went, "Embrace it." I realized I am representing, and for someone to go, "That's a Filipino; I can do that too," that is a responsibility that is here, and I need to embrace it. That's what happened in Hadestown. Bring yourself, and even Rachel said, "If you need..." I explained to her that dilemma of trying to hide my accent. She said, "No, show it. This is Greek mythology, and we're having Southern accents, and in London, they have Irish accents. You can bring anything to this role." I went, "Oh my god, my heart was bursting." Even now, I can't wait to be on stage again.

[24:21] Isa Briones: Yes, I love that. Thank you for sharing.

[24:27] Jon Jon Briones: Thank you. Yeah, thanks for the presentation. What does an American sound like?

[24:33] Isa Briones: Like you.

[24:34] Jon Jon Briones: Yes, like anybody, anyone, because that's what our country is about. It's supposed to be. That's right. What we're working hard toward.

[24:37] Isa Briones: We won't get into... I have a... I'm going off script for a second. Jay, I heard somewhere that you're doing a traditional Filipino prayer.

[24:43] Jon Jon Briones: Well, we do, yeah, at the end of the show. There are quite a few things that we've been able to add, especially my dad has been able to add from the support of Rachel. Shout out to Rachel Chavkin. During the show, he calls Orpheus "anak," which is like "my child." He counts in Tagalog, so he literally says my name, Isa, is the number one in Tagalog. He literally says, "Isa Dalawatato." But at the end of the show, we do the traditional "manopo," which is like a blessing you do of the elders. That actually did exist before us because I'm pretty sure it existed because of Eva, because Eva, the original Eurydice, is also Filipino. I remember seeing her do that with André, and I think a lot of people didn't realize that she was doing that because it's a Filipino blessing. But then it just was built into the show.

[26:02] Isa Briones: Oh, that's amazing.

[26:03] Jon Jon Briones: When we came in, we were like, "Oh yeah, it's the manopo." Then people were like, "Oh yes, yes, that's what it is." Go off! But it is a really beautiful moment, and it's really affecting after the show when we have family members come who are just sobbing because they're like, "Oh my god, they didn't know that we were going to do that." To see yourself represented in a place that you're often not is just so life-changing, especially for when some of my young cousins have come, and they'll be like, "I saw that you did that thing." It's just so beautiful. Also, just having Filipino fans come who are just like, "I think you got to do that! How did you get away with that?" It's like, "No, we were encouraged to." That's the future of theater that we want. A lot of them say that when they see that, when they hear it, they go, "I felt seen."

[27:02] Isa Briones: Yeah, that's so beautiful. It's so important, isn't it? Theater does that.

[27:09] Jon Jon Briones: And Isa, how beautiful for you after you were just saying that it was hard for you to book work because you didn't see yourself anywhere, and now you're the person that others can see themselves in.

[27:18] Isa Briones: Yeah, and just to stay on the subject of representation and making changes, we were chatting before about being a woman in this industry and, you know, being compared and all the noise around looking and acting and being a certain way as a woman. So you're a young woman in this industry. What do you hope to bring to the next generation of women artists? How do you hope to inspire them and change the way things are a bit? Well, I mean, as we were talking about, yeah, there is unfortunately a lot of... I mean, there's a lot within this question that we can't cover at all. We could be here for another three hours.

[28:59] Isa Briones: Who that's really hard to keep just like staying in the moment. But you have these people who will record, put it on TikTok, put it wherever and be like, okay, so this moment is different than what Eva did and this moment is different than what Azalea did. And like comparing every single moment where, and obviously like I had my weak moments where I looked at it and then I was like no, can't do that. And that is, you know, a form of self-preservation where you have to be like, I need to protect myself from that. But knowing that it's out there, it is a very unfortunate thing that is very common specifically for women in these positions. I feel like I don't find it as much with male actors either.

Like I feel like I see it more just praised of like wow, they're all so different. Look how cool. And then when it's a young Anja new, it's like oh, but she didn't do that. No, she didn't hit that one. Like she didn't do that. Like she was a little this there and it's like why are we comparing people? And even seeing how people compare looks too, I'm like, I thought we were past that. Like why are we? And I just at that point, why are we losing the point of the thing? Like the point of the thing is that we are telling a story and like how we tell the story, how everyone tells the story differently, what are they bringing to it instead of dividing it into like what was better? What was worse?

It's just, it is constant not being able to live up to the expectations and that has been like a big thing for me where I'm like okay, well, how can I kind of heal that part? Because it lives within me even when I don't see it out there from people. It just lives there. Like I'll see pictures of other people doing the same role and be like I don't look the same in the outfit. I look different. I or I sound different. Can't hit that as naturally. Like it's always going to be there. But just like being in it, it makes me just want to be like what if we all just watch things with an open mind and with an open spirit of like a what new, what's something new that I'm going to see from this? Not how can I compare this to the thing that I'm used to hearing, but like how am I going to be changed by this new version, by this progress of the character? Because everything is new, everything is growing. And yeah, I just think as theater audiences we have that responsibility to stay open and to keep experiencing.

[31:34] Jon Jon Briones: Yeah, and to preserve that feeling that you felt when you were 15. Yeah, it's like oh, yeah, it was different. It was very different than anything I had heard before but oh my god, how it changed my life, right? Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. I always love to talk to powerful young women and how we can change for the next generation. So, thank you.

[32:02] Isa Briones: Thank you. She's a powerful woman.

[32:06] Jason A. Coombs: Where I think we're coming up close to the end. We have about five, six minutes left. We have one final question then we're gonna end up a really fun game, really quick and fun game, but my last question for you both is what is your favorite part about watching each other's performance? Because you're both, your characters are on stage for most of the time so you get to see each other. What's your favorite part of the performance of the other person? Maybe something from rehearsal because you guys rehearse together as well.

[32:31] Isa Briones: Well, there's a lot of moments, but my one of my favorite things throughout rehearsal was seeing, you know, in rehearsal you're not doing a finished product. You're fully figuring it out as you go. You are throwing it at the wall, seeing what sticks. And my dad is so good at that, at just playing and seeing what comes up. And it was so fun to watch the who's getting a little text back. No, but no, it's seeing him like perform something and then the director be like here, I'm gonna give you this note, something to think about. And then he'd like take it in, sit for a second and then be like I have something, I'm gonna try something. And then he'd do the most show-stopping, insanely perfect thing that the whole room, because we would have swings and covers with us who weren't on stage to help us learn the show and everyone's jaw would just drop and be like, slaking.

But they would all just be like, and the amount of times that I heard our director say Jon Jon is giving us a master class right now, like that, those exact words were said so many times and it's so true. And it was a moment that sometimes I take for granted because I get to see it. I had the privilege of seeing it up close a lot of him creating, but it was a moment where I got to see other people experience it and really appreciate it and be stunned by it. And that was so, so special to see.

[34:19] Jon Jon Briones: Mine is, you know, well, Hades Hermes is always watching, right? He's always on stage. He's like the, he is the witness of all of this. So watching Isa do her scenes, it helps when someone is telling a story so clearly. Her storytelling is so clear and so precise that even though I know what's gonna happen, all I need to do is just listen to her and let her take me to the ending of this. And it surprises me sometimes when I would, there would be a genuine smile to my face when she would say something that is so endearing or so beautiful or so profound or, you know, and I would just, and I'm so in character. That's why I love being on stage. I love to go back to do the show again and do it again and again because of what I can get from Isa every single time.

And her understanding of things is so beyond her years. I feel like, oh my god, what is, my wife and I never felt this talented at this age and she is, she can do anything. And for her to tell flowers in such a precise way, and because you can, scenes like that you can overdo, but for her to just be focused and minimal and tell everything, tell so much is so, so magical. She's magic.

[36:22] Isa Briones: She's magical. Learn from the best.

[36:25] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, we sign off on all of that. Like we said earlier, Jason and I were just in awe and so honored that we got to chat with you. So, thank you guys.

[36:34] Jon Jon Briones: Thank you for chatting and being so open. I kind of want to join the family. I don't know if you need like a 30-something year old black...

[36:40] Isa Briones: We have an opening.

[36:48] Jason A. Coombs: So we really do want to play a quick game before we wrap. It'll be so quick, we promise. I'm so bad at games. Since you guys are both such iconic performers and have, you know, multiple roles under your belt, we're playing a game called Who Said It? We're gonna read you a line that one of you have said in a role you played either on Broadway, in a theater, in TV, and we'll see if you know who said it and what project it was. Gonna be embarrassing.

[37:01] Isa Briones: I think it's eat. Okay. All right, I think.

[37:21] Jason A. Coombs: Shout, shout.

[37:41] Jon Jon Briones: You're not like those other women. You're different. That's something my mother used to say about me and what I don't believe she meant it as a compliment.

[37:49] Isa Briones: Ah, I know this line. Yes. Oh my god, Ratchet. Yeah.

[37:57] Jon Jon Briones: Honestly, I knew it wasn't me, but I just kind of wanted to hear what I was like, what is he saying?

[38:02] Isa Briones: Dr. Hanover, can we shout out that performance by the way? Yeah, my crazy.

[38:07] Jon Jon Briones: So good. Last okay. Congrats one point for Jon Jon. Wow. Can you guys please keep score in the audience?

[38:14] Jason A. Coombs: Next. Please don't leave me with him helpless. Just give him what he wants and you can have me.

[38:24] Isa Briones: Oh, that's me. That's Mariah.

[38:25] Jon Jon Briones: I was for some reason I was like, are those the words? Is that what I said?

[38:30] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, one in one. Yeah, go ahead Jay.

[38:35] Jason A. Coombs: When you see a cloud ahead, it's time to show your class.

[38:43] Jon Jon Briones: That's Jon Jon.

[38:48] Jason A. Coombs: Yeah, that's the engineer.

[38:53] Jon Jon Briones: Thank you, yes. Die in bed, baby. Nice. Miss Saigon is my top three favorite musicals. Also, I saw the revival multiple times. I feel like that's also the underrated song of the engineer.

[38:58] Isa Briones: It's always American Dream.

[39:05] Jon Jon Briones: Thank you. I want to die in bed can dream that. Iconic. Okay, Jon Jon East is in the lead. Just letting you know.

[39:09] Jason A. Coombs: Next.

[39:11] Isa Briones: Dude, I'm a fellow and intelligence in quantum.

[39:15] Jon Jon Briones: That's me. That's um, that's Dodge.

[39:21] Isa Briones: Okay, 'cause I play like four different characters in Star Trek. That was Dodge in the first episode.

[39:28] Jon Jon Briones: Correct. Star Trek Picard.

[39:31] Isa Briones: Which one of me did that? And you both were in that show?

[39:34] Jon Jon Briones: But yeah, not we did not have cross paths at all. He got to work with all of my friends and I was really jealous.

[39:42] Jason A. Coombs: The last one before the bonus.

[39:44] Isa Briones: Yeah, don't in a long-lost sibling and a rich grandmother and you're okay.

[39:52] Jon Jon Briones: I want to give him this point.

[39:52] Isa Briones: It's me 'cause I've made that line up.

[39:55] Jon Jon Briones: Did you? Yeah, that wasn't written.

[40:01] Isa Briones: Oh, okay, yeah. Throw in a long-lost sibling and a rich grandmother and you've got a soap opera on your hands.

[40:05] Jon Jon Briones: Yes, 'cause yeah, I wrote that myself. I didn't, I just like improvised it because they, goosebumps. Let's our wonderful creators let us improv a lot and that's what made it so, so fun to do. And all of the actors on it were so great at just playing around like that and yeah, it was a scene with Lucas played by Will Price, who is my boyfriend.

[40:29] Isa Briones: What?

[40:33] Jon Jon Briones: That was a very cute little moment where we were flirting on screen slash IRL and yeah, and I made up that line because the way we were just like throwing shit out there and everyone laughed at it. So I was like, he, I'm gonna keep that. I'm a funny made the game. I'm a funny girl.

[40:53] Jason A. Coombs: Okay, we're getting yelled at to wrap up. So I'm gonna get this bonus. It's me that has four and you have one, but if you get the bonus, it'll be worth everyone's game. All right, here's the bonus. Once upon a time there was a rail.

[41:17] Jon Jon Briones: What's the answer?

[41:22] Jason A. Coombs: So, I think we can call it a tie. You got the bonus.

[41:25] Jon Jon Briones: Good job.

[41:30] Jason A. Coombs: Thank you all. Please follow Survival Jobs: A Podcast or on Instagram and Twitter at Survival Jobs Pod and thank you so much.

[41:39] Isa Briones: Thank you.

[41:44] Jason A. Coombs: What's your ending? I don't think we're allowed to say, oh go see Hadestown.