In Episode 25, David and Mark-Eugene explore the challenges and triumphs of creating art during the COVID-19 pandemic. Later, they are joined by playwright Hayley St. James, who discusses The Affair Plays and their unique approach to blending authentic representation with hyper-theatrical, surreal, and intimate storytelling. The episode wraps up with Mark-Eugene teasing the next guest, Jordan Beswick, and previewing the upcoming discussion.