Acclaimed filmmaker Chase Joynt joins us to discuss State of Firsts, the powerful new documentary following Sarah McBride's historic campaign to become the first openly transgender member of the United States Congress. With unprecedented access, the film captures the challenges, triumphs, and pressures that come with breaking barriers while navigating a deeply divided political landscape. The documentary offers an intimate look at leadership, representation, and what it means to carry the hopes of so many while remaining true to yourself.

We also talk about Chase's remarkable career as a filmmaker, storyteller, and champion of groundbreaking nonfiction cinema. From Framing Agnes to No Ordinary Man and now State of Firsts, Chase continues to create work that sparks conversation and challenges audiences to think deeper about identity, visibility, and change. This is a thoughtful and timely conversation about politics, storytelling, courage, and the power of being first.

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