The man who has been in more EVITA productions than Mandy Patinkin joins me on the podcast to talk about his back and forth in show business and finding the balance between "making it" and making a living.

As founder and owner of Ryan Bailer Support, he's created a thriving company that he enjoys and supports him and his family. But he still dreams of being on the stage and knows that he's not quite complete if he's not pursuing his acting career as well.

He gives the hilarious story of his first audition in 10 years for the EVITA National Tour, which he booked, as well as gives us some tech tips and strategies for our own use of computers and mobile devices. Click here to have Ryan and his team help you with any of your own tech needs.

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