In this episode, Ben and Daniel talk to actor and director Michael Arden about Joni Mitchell's 1971 album, Blue. They also discuss Audra McDonald, Ricky Ian Gordon, Follies, Imelda Staunton, Alexandra Silber, Indigo Girls, Sara McLachlan, Shawn Colvin, The Phantom of the Opera, Gillian Lynne, Ben Folds, Maggie Rogers, Lestat, Robyn, and Jan Maxwell. Michael talks about discovering Joni and how her storytelling abilities influenced his own artistic career. Michael has appeared on Broadway in shows such as Big River and Bare, A Pop Opera. He also directed the hit revivals of Spring Awakening and Once On This Island.